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to30 Idles fast dies under load

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Mickf

03-04-2008 07:06:25




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I just finished doing some work on my fergie. Converted to 12 volt, electronic ignition, 12 volt coil, rebuilt carb. When I fired her up the first time she fired right up but would not idle long before she would backfire and die. I advanced the timing slightly and it smoothed out. Now she is idling fast and dies when I driver her very far(she will sit and idle all day long). I read through the forums and am suspecting that I need to check the linkage to the gov to fix the fast idle and then adjust the high speed jet to fix the dying problem. Does this sound correct. I have good fuel to the carb and clean air intake. I want to get her working so I can plow the 10" of snow we are supposed to get today. Thanks!

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Jerry/MT

03-04-2008 09:18:21




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 Re: to30 Idles fast dies under load in reply to Mickf, 03-04-2008 07:06:25  
Don"t mess with the governor linkage. That is rarely the problem unless you messed with it after making your component changes .

Set the main jet 1-1/4 turns out from full close and the Idle air 3/4 turn out from full close . Start the tractor and see what happens. Make sure that you put the gasket in the connect flange between the carb and the intake manifold and that the joint is tight. Start it up again, set the idle rpm (~400rpm) with the screw on the throttle rod connection to the carb, and see if the problem persists.

If the problem continues, put a timing light on and see what the timing is. If it"s not 6 oBTDC at Idle rpm (~400rpm), adjust to that value. Advance the throttle to above 1000 rpm and notice that the timing increases. If it doesn"t, something is binding in the advance mechanism. You"ll need to fix that.

If you still have the problem, check for manifold leaks. You can use starting fluid or propane from a hand held torch. With the engine running, CAREFULLY spray starting fluid or propane from a non-lighted ptopane torchc around the carb shaft, the intake manifold to carb joint and the cylinder head to intake maifold. If the engine speeds up when you spray it near these areas, you"ve found your leak.

Do these things systematically, checking the operation after every change, and you should find the root cause of your problem.

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Paul Kingsbury

03-04-2008 08:57:46




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 Re: to30 Idles fast dies under load in reply to Mickf, 03-04-2008 07:06:25  
I am concerned about the timing; could you have mixed up the spark plug wires? I would check them first.
I would say it is running to lean or has a vacuum leak. To test this just take a clean rag and put over the carb intake; if it speeds us then it is to lean, if it slows or dies then it is running rich enough. If your engine is running to lean turn out the fuel screws/in to lean it out.
Good luck, Paul

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