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TO-35 Steering

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John Baas

11-15-2007 19:57:51




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Did you ever start a project and then take...oh...a year to finish it and button up the tractor? A year ago, I had a problem with my steering. There wasn"t any. The steering wheel would turn but seemed to "unscrew" the column. Taking a look deep down into the steering box I found a mangled bearing at the bottom. I replaced it and then attempted to put the parts back in their place when I realized I had not threaded the throttle rod under the gas tank before securing all the bolts to the dash. Well, now it"s a year later and I"m finally testing the steering. The front wheels turn fine but I have an excessive amount of "play" in the steering wheel. Looks to be about a half a turn of the wheel before anything up front moves. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it in under a year"s time?

John

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Bob Weeks

11-22-2007 10:34:34




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 Re: TO-35 Steering in reply to John Baas, 11-15-2007 19:57:51  
A couple of years ago I purchased a 1955 TO-35 and discovered after I got it home that it was very difficult to steer. After pulling the top off the steering box and removing the shaft and bearings, I found that the ball block bearing on the shaft had blown out. The fix was a new shaft and ball block assembly. It made a tremendous difference. I didn't remove the side arms but replaced the shaft when the ball block assembly was at its highest point on the shaft and the wheels were cramped all the way to the side it would normally be at that point. It went back together quite easily and works great now.

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Jeff-oh

11-16-2007 09:41:56




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 Re: TO-35 Steering in reply to John Baas, 11-15-2007 19:57:51  
only 1 year hun? Thats Fast Speedy. I have several projects that are over two years old, and a bridge over the creek I have been attempting to rebuild for 14 years.

As for the steering where is the slop? The Gears in the box should be pretty responsive. You say you make a 1/2 turn before anything up front moves. Do the Steering box arms move right away? is the play only in one direstion?

Could be a Steering gear meshing issue.

Jeff

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John Baas

11-18-2007 18:29:33




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 Re: TO-35 Steering in reply to Jeff-oh, 11-16-2007 09:41:56  
Thanks for your responses. I've had move the tractor outside under a tarp to make room for snow plow equipment inside. I have not been able to check for sure where the "slop" is. First chance I get I'll get back on to answer your questions. Thank you for your help! I just wish I could check it out right away.

John



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greenbank

11-16-2007 02:09:16




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 Re: TO-35 Steering in reply to John Baas, 11-15-2007 19:57:51  
To be clearer, the manual calls for (this is manual steering) removing the arms from the box, along with their gears, and then putting a pull scale on the steering wheel at the rim. As I recall, there should be about 2 lbs of pressure before the wheel starts moving. Replace the lower gear and shaft, and then test again...there should now be about 4 or so lbs of pressure required to move the wheel once the tension on the lower gear is properly tensioned. Replace the upper gear, you guessed it, 6 or so pounds of pressure required to move the wheel.

The manual spells all this out pretty clearly. You can, of course, check your bearings and gears for wear, and replace the seals on the shafts, while you're at it.

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greenbank

11-15-2007 23:40:29




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 Re: TO-35 Steering in reply to John Baas, 11-15-2007 19:57:51  
I would start by determining where the lost motion is. Do the arms on the side of the steering box move immediately when the steering wheel is moved? If they do, how about the link rods to the front? Any lost motion there? Etc. Look for wear outside the box before delving into the box itself.

There will be some free play in the steering wheel, but not half a turn. You can compensate for some wear by using the adjusting screws on the opposite sides of the steering box. You can also adjust the box by adding or removing shims under the main pedestal. But I'm not sure these adjustments will counter half a turn of lost motion.

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