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Transporting a TEA 20

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Toora Stephen

10-15-2007 22:06:12




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Hi everybody,
I have just purchased my first tractor - a TEA 20 - and I need to work out the best way to get it to my place. I will need to transport it about 100km, and it will be over some hills and unsealed roads.

I assume that a tandem trailer will be enough to carry it, as long as I have an appropriate vehicle to tow it. I suspect my car (a Hyundai Sportswagon) will be underpowered. I can probably borrow or hire a 4WD that will do the job.

Does anyone here have any suggestions or experience doing this sort of thing?

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Bob (Aust)

10-21-2007 18:34:46




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
Those darn Victorian cows!! :)

I'll see if I can dig up a photo of the genuine Ferguson cyclops head light and post it here. I suspect they may be rather rare in Australia.



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Toora Stephen

10-21-2007 17:30:13




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to John (UK), 10-15-2007 22:06:12  

Bob (Aust) said: (quoted from post at 22:29:42 10/21/07) Wow! Looks like mine! Guess you took my advice and rented the trailer from the local BP garage? :-)

Can I see a single head light on your tractor? Is that an original and genuine Ferguson cyclops head light?


Yes, I borrowed the car, hired the trailer and had absolutely no problems moving it (along with slasher, grader and forks attachments), even over some rough roads and steep terrain.

I think it is an original headlight, but it doesn't work because... apparently the wiring got chewed by a cow. So it should be pretty easy to fix!

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Bob (Aust)

10-21-2007 14:29:42




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
Wow! Looks like mine! Guess you took my advice and rented the trailer from the local BP garage? :-)

Can I see a single head light on your tractor? Is that an original and genuine Ferguson cyclops head light?
If a genuine Ferguson head light, I think it would be rare in Australia.



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Bob (Aust)

10-17-2007 20:39:44




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
The trailer I hired came with two chains with over center lever locks and eyes in the trailer bed. Two chains around the rear axle housing, back to the eyes at the back of the trailer.
I used a cargo strap around the front axle and forward to the front of the trailer. Foot brake locked on, tractor in first gear. In my case I also lowered the slasher onto the trailer deck. Don't forget to take the keys out of the tractor!!! LOL

Nothing moved despite 120 plus KPH over what passes for a National Highway out here in Western Queensland. Even last minute swerving around the odd 'roo didn't budge the Old Girl.

The trailer had a wider track than my Prado so more care is required when manouvering or backing.

Have a great trip!

P.S. As a matter of interest, does your TEA20 have a blue line around the bonnet and aluminium name plates on the side, at the rear of the bonnet? I'm intrigued why and how this happened to Fergies only in Australia and now suspect it was done to most tractors imported through the Melbourne dealers.

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phil(va)

10-17-2007 09:19:53




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
If the rear tires have fluid, that will add hundreds of pounds to each wheel. With the weight of the trailer itself, plus the load, you can figure on pulling around 5,000 lbs more or less, mostly depending on whether the rear wheels have fluid. 4WD isn"t really necessary, but the weight and power of the pulling vehicle certainly is important.



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Bob (Aust)

10-17-2007 00:00:58




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
1953 TEA20 on the back of my Toyota Prado at Brisbane:

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Toora Stephen

10-21-2007 05:16:54




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Bob (Aust), 10-17-2007 00:00:58  
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...and here we are on the way...



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Toora Stephen

10-17-2007 17:32:56




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Bob (Aust), 10-17-2007 00:00:58  
Nice pic. Hopefully I'll be posting a similar one after the weekend!



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Bob (Aust)

10-16-2007 02:24:40




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Doug A, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
Toora. Your TEA20 is 2,446 pounds/1,109 kg (from Ser No 325001). I also had a four foot slasher connected when I towed the Fergy and guess the all up towed weight, trailer and the Old Girl, around 2.5 tonnes.

I Googled your Hyundai Lantra Sportswagon. 1.8 liter engine..... ...
Aside from the legality of that weight behind a family wagon, you'd have more chance of flagging down an express train with a match, than pulling the Fergy with your car!

If I can help you with your Fergy, email me. I found a great Fergy parts supplier in Victoria and happy to pass the contact on. The Harry Ferguson Tractor Club of Australia is also based in Victoria and can give you very useful assistance.

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Bob (Aust)

10-16-2007 01:02:50




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-15-2007 22:06:12  
Toora. I towed my TEA20 over 500 kilometers (300miles), on a tandem axle, tilt trailer, hooked to my Toyota Landcruiser Prado. The trailer had electric brakes, required by law on all trailers over 750 kg mass in Australia.

The trip involved passing over one mountain range with 15% gradients.

The Toyota Prado is a 4WD, 4.2 lit V6 engine.

Didn't feel the trailer on the back, cruising at speeds up to 120 KPH, no problem at all. But fuel consumption went from 11 liters per 100 kms, to 30 lit per 100 kms!

Don't know your Hyundai model, but if it is a four cylinder similar to the Hyundai cars in Australia, I suspect it will be a big ask expecting it to tow a Fergy and double axle trailer!

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Bob (Aust)

10-16-2007 01:11:39




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Bob (Aust), 10-16-2007 01:02:50  
Toora..... Ooops. Just realised from your IP address you may be in Victoria (Camberwell?), Australia.

See my post above, I towed my TEA20 Fergy from Brisbane to Roma. The range was at Toowoomba. I hired a tandem trailer from a BP garage I think it was, cost around Aus$200 for two days.

I think the Fergy is 1,100 kg - can look it up if you need exact weights. If you need to hire both a 4WD and tandem trailer, it may be cheaper to hire a 2 tonne truck from Budget or Avis, providing you have loading ramps available.

Pity I wasn't closer or I would help you out!

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Toora Stephen

10-16-2007 05:13:57




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Bob (Aust), 10-16-2007 01:11:39  
Thanks Bob. In fact the tractor weighs about 1,250kg, according to one of the references I found. My car would have no hope of carrying it up hills. It is rated to 850kg.

It looks like I'll have to hire or borrow a decent-sized 4wd.



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Bob (Aust)

10-16-2007 15:24:52




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-16-2007 05:13:57  
The Ferguson TEA20 weighs 2,376 pounds (1,109 kg) post Ser No 325000.

The tilt trailer I hired had a very heavy bar across the front (and winch) to stop the tractor moving forward. It came with tie down chains.

If you use a tilt trailer be very careful driving on. The incline is so steep that any sudden clutch release could flip the tractor. I drove on over a gutter to reduce the tilt angle.

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Jeff-oh

10-16-2007 08:40:46




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-16-2007 05:13:57  
Just as a reminder. When chaining the tractor down. The major load will be to stop the tractor. Thus put the heave chains holding it back. Very few people can accelerate with enough force to pull the trailer out from under the tractor.

I say this because I once saw a John Deere with four chains holding the front axle and only straps on the back end. In a panic stop that tractor was going to be in the truck bed.

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Toora Stephen

10-16-2007 15:34:05




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Jeff-oh, 10-16-2007 08:40:46  
Very good point. Thanks.



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Lance J.

10-17-2007 08:41:21




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-16-2007 15:34:05  
I think there is a section on this website entitled "transporting your tractor" or something similar.



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Toora Stephen

10-17-2007 17:31:09




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Lance J., 10-17-2007 08:41:21  
Yeah, I discovered it after I started posting here. It all seems to be about "CDL"s and all sorts of other irrelevant and heavy-duty stuff.

One more question - I have lined up Toyota Landcruiser (or something like that) and a tandem trailer. Now, can anyone give me advice about straps/chains? What sort should I use, and where should I attach them to the tractor?

I have transported quite a few loads in my time, so I have some idea, but never something quite this heavy (and on wheels).

Thanks for all the replies so far!

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Jeff-oh

10-18-2007 07:26:50




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 Re: Transporting a TEA 20 in reply to Toora Stephen, 10-17-2007 17:31:09  
Torra,

Right now I run a Class 70 (Gold chain) under the right axle over the 3-point spring behind the seat and then down infront of the left axleand aft to the tie down point.

I use a chain binder. Though before I used a chain binder, I would put the chain on as tight os possible then use a nylon strap on the front to pull the chain tight. Then I would lock the breaks and put it in gear.

I then tie the front down with nylon straps wrapped around the front axle.

I know what you mean about the tractor towing forum. If you post there as a novice, all the professional truckers with all the equiptment at their fingertips jump on you if you are trying to do it with out spending $1000's on equipment for casual use.

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