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TO-30 Up And Running

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glenmorebuckman

10-13-2007 19:32:48




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I just wanted to let everybody know I got my uncles 1951 TO-30 running! I used this tractor when I was a kid and helped rebuild the engine on it. The water pump went bad on it and he parked it in the barn where it sat for 5-6 years. He passed away recently and I purchased it along with the plow a bush hog , cultivator, sickle bar mower and a drag disc all for $100. I put a new water pump on it and had to fix the leads in the starter. I then checked the plugs for fire but didn't have any. After pulling the distributor cap I found the points where bad. After replacing them, I squirted a little gas in each cylinder and hit the starter button. It turned over a few times then fired right up. It runs like a new tractor. It probably doesn't have over 10 hours on the rebuilt engine. I've still got a few bugs to work out on it though. I took the pto cover off and it was full of hydraulic fluid and the rear end is leaking fluid around each wheel. I would also like to replace the pto with an 1 3/8 shaft. Also change the hydraulic fluid. Any recommendations on the these repairs. I also haven't figured out if it's negative or positive ground. The wire going from the distributor to the coil runs to the negative side of the coil. I also found out the generator isn't charging. I pulled the battery cable of while it was running and it died. I then put a tester on the two wires at the generator and there was no current. Any help there? Excuse me for my ramblings, but I'm tickled to death that I've got her running after all these years! Thanks everybody, Billy

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gshadel

10-15-2007 13:07:02




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to glenmorebuckman, 10-13-2007 19:32:48  
Awesome work!
If you don't have a manual, get one now, 'cus sounds like your going to need it when you tear into the leaky seals.
As far as your charging, you gotta figure out if your dealing with 6V or 12V. Looking at the battery top should tell you. A 6V battery has 4 caps, a 12V has 8 caps. If you have what looks like the original Delco-Remy generator,like a model 1100529, you have a 6V generator. Your battery should have a + and - stamped on it next to the posts. Might need to clean up the top to see them. Which one goes to the ground cable bolted to the backside of the dash? I agree with the other guys, probably just need to clean-up the brushes & commutator on the generator, an easy do-it-yourselfer job. 6V systems are more sensitive to corrosion than 12V systems, I recommend cleaning and shining all your wire connections, including the big ground to frame before doing anything else. Might also just be the regulator is stuck. Next time your engine is running, speed it up to working speed, take a wrench, and wack the regulator box a couple times to see if it kicks in. You will know if you have an AMP gauge. The gauge will go from ~0 to +4-10 depending on battery condition. My need to check the ground on your regulator too. If it is corrodes, it won't charge, one of the mounting bolts is also the ground to frame.
The easiest way to check your generator output is to run your engine fairly fast (working speed), take a piece of wire and connect one end to the F (field)terminal on the generator, and the other end of the wire to ground. That forces your generator to full output, and bypasses the regulator. Measure the volts across the battery before you do that, then while you are doing that. If the volts don't go up, the generator ain't working right. Checking the volts across the two terminals on the generator don't work, that ain't the way it operates. The F terminal provides power to the field which controls output strength. The A terminal is your actual power output. If your regulator is not working, your generator will have no output. See the above test to bypass your regulator & check generator output.


George

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Jeff-oh

10-15-2007 07:04:50




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to glenmorebuckman, 10-13-2007 19:32:48  
Billy, congrats.

There is an transmission oil changing procedure I wrote several years back. Do an archive search to find. If you have troubles let me know and I can post again.

Before you go purchase a $100 1 3/8 shaft. Ask what you will be using the tractor for. If mostly bush hogging, then you will need an ORC anyway and they come in a 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 version.

Post back and we can help.

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noncompos

10-14-2007 13:01:56




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to glenmorebuckman, 10-13-2007 19:32:48  
(Sigh) Next time you fire one up that"s been sitting for 5-6 years (or less) please, at least, pull the plugs, squirt a little oil in the holes, and whiz it over a little (with the plugs out) to get oil to all those dry,dry,dry moving parts before you subject it to actually firing and running...
Cars/trucks/tractors etc are funny: some can sit for years and the seals don"t shrink--others seem to shrink or lose their elasticity quickly, so watch everyplace there"s a seal for leaks, which sounds like what happened to yours. Good luck.

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MurrayE

10-14-2007 05:51:59




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to glenmorebuckman, 10-13-2007 19:32:48  
Billy, we are all just as excited as you for your newly purchased tractor. Post some pictures.
We will share your happiness, and won't help with any of the expenses. cheers, Murray



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glenmorebuckman

10-13-2007 19:36:02




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to glenmorebuckman, 10-13-2007 19:32:48  
I also wanted to add that the coil on this tractor is a 12 volt coil. Could this have something to do with the generator not charging?



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CENTAUR

10-13-2007 20:19:10




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to glenmorebuckman, 10-13-2007 19:36:02  
NO relationship whatsoever.CENTAUR



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Khyron

10-13-2007 20:55:27




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 Re: TO-30 Up And Running in reply to CENTAUR, 10-13-2007 20:19:10  
The coil wouldn't have anything to do with it.
I would imagine the brushes and commutator are corroded on the generator. You sure sound excited about the tractor though, you need to post pics from it. There are numerous resources on the net and this site on checking and repairing these sometimes troublesome items.

Good luck



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