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Pinning-who does it-what should it cost?

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Tania..Wisconsin

02-21-2001 12:50:48




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OK.....think I'm understanding most of the info that's been sent my way. If I find someone capable of pinning the block will they first megaflux/assess or just go ahead and pin it. I'm getting the feeling that I'll be looking for an old timer, hope I find one with patience. Question...do they always pin through the same parts of the block or go according to where the cracks are? The photos I've seen look like the repair bolts run through almost the same line on every block.

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Jim in Ct

02-28-2001 03:16:15




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
Just go ahead and have it pinned, then you will be trouble free. My block cost less than 200 to pin. They only need to pin the bottom half of the engine, the head gasket seals the top half.



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Jim in Ct

02-28-2001 03:12:33




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
Just go ahead and have it pinned, then you will be trouble free. My block cost less than 200 to pin. They only need to pin the bottom half of the engine, the head gasket seals the top half.



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Paul in NM

02-24-2001 09:21:59




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
Tania - the following fellow repairs cracked Continental engine blocks for Fergusons:

Wally Golonka
517 W. Bannerman Ave.
Red Granite, WI
(920) 566-4405

Give him a call. He may be near enough to you to use him.

Paul



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marlowe

02-22-2001 11:43:03




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
aplace in ripon wis. did it for me on a ihc bloock thint it was bladods autonot sure of name



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phil

02-22-2001 09:50:55




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
I had one pinned recently, here in VA, and it was slightly less than $200 as I recall. They use stainless steel rods as the rods are in the coolant between the cylinders. So far mine looks ok, although I got a drop of coolant leaking occasionally off end of one of the rods. I put silicone on it and I think it stopped. I did not put stop leak in radiator, and frankly don't like that stuff. My rods have two nuts on the ends to hold the nuts tight. Hope that helps.

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Fred OH

02-22-2001 07:21:13




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
The reason that the pins are in the same place is because the blocks always crack in the same place. It's probably the weakest link in the chain.
Find a block that's been pinned and measure the distance on them and drill your own. The only thing you might have to do is to weld an extension on a twist drill so it will be long enough to drill all the way through the block. 1/2" bolt for lower is okay but 3/8" if at top of cylinder. I would try to put stopleak in radiator before pinning, sometimes it will work. I have also vee'ed them out and welded them with nickel rod and ground down with a die grinder. I still put stopleak in it just in case. I think the main thing is to not get too bent out of shape about it, it might have been cracked the first year of the tractor's existence. L8R----Fred OH

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Fred OH

02-22-2001 07:19:04




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
The reason that the pins are in the same place is because the blocks always crack in the same place. It's probably the weakest link in the chain.
Find a block that's been pinned and measure the distance on them and drill your own. The only thing you might have to do is to weld an extension on a twist drill so it will be long enough to drill all the way through the block. 1/2" bolt for lower is okay but 3/8" if at top of cylinder. I would try to put stopleak in radiator before pinning, sometimes it will work. I have also vee'ed them out and welded them with nickel rod and ground down with a die grinder. I still put stopleak in it just in case. I think the main thing is to not get too bent out of shape about it, it might have been cracked the first year of the tractor's existence. L8R----Fred OH

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David Waymann

02-22-2001 06:22:30




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
Tania: I am not sure where you find a shop that does pinning in your area, but you could start either with the local tractor repair shop or a local machine shop that does engine rebuilds. I also would have you look up the information posted by Danny Collins (this discussion forum). He provided the photos a while back and has contact with someone who still pins blocks. It is my understanding that the location of the pins depends on where the cracks are found on the block. A well equipped machine shop should be able to handle the magnafluxing for you. I think I have seen costs in the $200.00 range--this may depend on whether your provide a stripped down block and how much work the shop does vs how much you do.

One last thing, cracks in blocks are often caused by overheating--the biggest cause of which is the cooling system. So, with that in mind, have your radiator cleaned (re-cored or checked out), check or replace your thermostat, check or replace the radiator hoses, clean the water jacket in the block (machine shop will probably do this), check or replace your water pump (impeller and bearings), and check that your radiator cap is the correct pressure (probably 4-8 psi) and that it will hold the specified pressure. Lastly check that the fan turns and that the fanbelt is in good shape and adjusted properly. Good luck and keep us posted, David

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David Waymann

02-22-2001 06:15:56




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 Re: pinning-who does it-what should it cost? in reply to Tania..Wisconsin, 02-21-2001 12:50:48  
Tania: I am not sure where you find a shop that does pinning in your area, but you could start either with the local tractor repair shop or a local machine shop that does engine rebuilds. I also would have you look up the information posted by Danny Collins (this discussion forum). He provided the photos a while back and has contact with someone who still pins blocks. It is my understanding that the location of the pins depends on where the cracks are found on the block. A well equipped machine shop should be able to handle the magnafluxing for you. I think I have seen costs in the $200.00 range--this may depend on whether your provide a stripped down block and how much work the shop does vs how much you do.

One last thing, cracks in blocks are often caused by overheating--the biggest cause of which is the cooling system. So, with that in mind, have your radiator cleaned (re-cored or checked out), check or replace your thermostat, check or replace the radiator hoses, clean the water jacket in the block (machine shop will probably do this), check or replace your water pump (impeller and bearings), and check that your radiator cap is the correct pressure (probably 4-8 psi) and that it will hold the specified pressure. Lastly check that the fan turns and that the fanbelt is in good shape and adjusted properly. Good luck and keep us posted, David

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