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FireUmp

08-18-2007 18:25:53




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Greetings.... I'm a new TO 35 owner a 1960 model. I plan to use it on my hunting lease to plant food plots and mow. During the overhaul and tune up today as I was refilling the hydraulic tank, I noticed fluid running out of a small hole from underneath...my partners and I assumed it was some type of overflow...were we correct? I only have the owners manual at this time and it doesn't give much info. Have the manual on order.

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John (UK)

08-19-2007 06:54:39




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to FireUmp, 08-18-2007 18:25:53  
If the hole is right underneath and just forward of the footrests it is a drain hole but only to let out any oil that has seeped into the clutch housing through a damaged or worn oil seal. Have you got too much oil in the transmission? Take out the bottom setscrew on one of the round side covers below the seat, any oil that comes out should be slight, if it runs out there is too much in it and that could cause your oil leak underneath. The dipstick may read ok but it may not be the right one for your tractor and the markings could be wrong, so you have too much oil in it. Get the correct level and then see if it still runs out, if it does you will need to change the oil seal on the drive shaft from the engine into the Transmission.To do this the engine will have to come out...John

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Dean

08-19-2007 06:48:43




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to FireUmp, 08-18-2007 18:25:53  
UMP:

What Gregg said is correct.

Your transmission input shaft seal and probably your transmission input shaft as well is worn out. In your case it sounds like the wear is very bad.

As you add oil to the transmission fill cap it takes a very long time for the oil to flow through the bearings and into the hydraulic pump and differential cavity. By adding oil, you probably filled the transmission case high enough to reach the input shaft and the oil ran past the seal into the bell housing and out the hole in the bottom that MF placed there do drain such leaking oil from the bell housing. As Gregg said, this hole originally had a cotter pin in it to prevent its clogging with dirt.

The bad news: The oil will get onto your clutch if it has not yet done so and you must split the tractor to replace the seal.

Usually the transmision input shaft is worn and or rust pitted rendering replacement of the seal alone ineffective. New input shafts are no longer available and most used ones are also worn out. Some folks have the shaft welded up and turned back down to size.

Dean

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FireUmp

08-19-2007 17:08:50




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to Dean, 08-19-2007 06:48:43  
Dean and John (UK) thanks for the input. I do think maybe I overfilled the tranny. Dean, I'll do the lower bolt on the round inspection plate on the right side behind where my right foot goes and see what happens. The fluid does not continuouslly leak from the clutch housing hole. Today we mowed some with it and no leak, it only leaked after loading it on the trailer. It's off to my brother in laws muffler shop for some exhaust work, and then in 2 weekends we'll give the ole girl the true test. I plan to mow and/or disk from daylight to dark and maybe after dark since we installed headlights today. Thanks again to everyone for the help. I'm sure I'll be a regular around here,

Greg

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Bob (Aust)

08-19-2007 02:43:54




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to FireUmp, 08-18-2007 18:25:53  
Sounds like what Gregg says - transmission front seal leaking and oil weeping out the drain hole in the clutch housing. Should have a bent cotter pin in the hole.

(Not familiar with the 35, but the 20's and 30's have two open drain holes in the clutch housing to avoid oil damage to the clutch when either the rear crankshaft seal or transmission front seals leak.)



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FireUmp

08-19-2007 03:46:11




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to Bob (Aust), 08-19-2007 02:43:54  
The hole is dead center the tranny housing, just to the rear of what I think is the "inspection" plate that allows you to see the flywheel. After posting my question, I read somewhere on here not to fill via the filler hole located to the left of the shifter. As they say..."I"ll live and learn." Thanks to all.

Greg



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Mark from the fort

08-18-2007 19:10:13




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to FireUmp, 08-18-2007 18:25:53  
On that year I do not know much, however; they didn't change a whole lot from the very first to35's. Did you locate the source of the leak?
It is not too uncommon for pin hole leaks to happen in these tanks. Secondly, was it leaking around the sediment bulb/fuel shut off?-this could be a bad (dried out) cork gasket between the glass and the housing. Thirdly, they can leak around the actual know that you turn to open/close the fuel flow.
Lastly, some of the later model 35's had fuel gauges on the dash-these have to have sending units--I do not know if these were possible mounted on the sides or bottoms and could be leaking. I have never heard about a fuel overflow.
Thanks, Mark

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Gregg/Ohio

08-18-2007 19:22:49




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to Mark from the fort, 08-18-2007 19:10:13  
Mark :great answer,but I think he was asking about the Hydro,end of the tractor. He needs to tell me where the fuild is leaking from? Could be bad front transmission seal,if its coming out of clutch cover area where the cotter pin is located? Gregg/Dayton



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Mark from the fort

08-18-2007 19:29:56




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 Re: TO 35 in reply to Gregg/Ohio, 08-18-2007 19:22:49  
Thanks a lot for making me feel REAL stupid.
Maybe the fact that my 3 year old is climbing on top of my head as I "try" to read this site has affected my noggin'.
I'm not too bright, but I did catch the "hydraulic" reference the second time through.
If it were a gas tank leak, how would I have done??? Ha Ha Ha Ha



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