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TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around?

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Jim31

06-15-2007 04:24:18




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Can anyone tell me a work-around method to gauge the engine Temp? A well meaning relative pulled the temperature gauge cable from the sensing mechanism on my '55 TO35. Neither of us can afford to send the tractor to the shop nor do we have experience replacing this gauge. I can buy and reset a new gauge in the panel though. I use the tractor to mow, spread gravel, and clear snow so work-around fixes are fine. Thank you

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Jerry/MT

06-15-2007 09:43:37




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jim31, 06-15-2007 04:24:18  
Send it to a shop to replace the temperature gauge! This ain't the Space Shuttle it's a late 1940's technology tractor. A new gauge is about $15-20 and it installs in the gooseneck just below where the upper radiator hose is located. It requires hand tools to install and as Mark points out, you really should have it to monitor the coolant temperature. These engines are sensitive to over heating and a remanufactured Z134 Continental short block is about $1750-2000.

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Jim 31

06-15-2007 18:47:25




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jerry/MT, 06-15-2007 09:43:37  
Jerry,

I was hoping I could get away w/ a quick & easy fix. Now its one more thing to do. If I'm looking in the correct place, the sensor (bulb?) is still in the port. It's just below the thermostat in flat space w/ a hole going up into the elbow. I feel what I think is a piece of the sensor cable. Can you tell tell me what's needed to extract it? Grab it w/ a pair of pliers and twist? Is there a lock nut?

Jim

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Jerry/MT

06-16-2007 11:38:20




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jim 31, 06-15-2007 18:47:25  
There is a "lock nut". Actually as as I recall it's a special fitting that has pipe thread on it.



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Jim31

06-16-2007 17:37:16




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jerry/MT, 06-16-2007 11:38:20  
Jerry,

Thank you. Guess I know now how I'll be spending part of Father's Day :) Who knows, maybe the previous owner changed out the gauge and nothing has locked up. I'll find out. Again, thank you.

Jim



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mark from the fort

06-15-2007 05:17:58




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jim31, 06-15-2007 04:24:18  
I don't know about a way to work around it, but ANY temp guage will work--you do not need a "ferguson tractor only" guage. As long as you get the size that fits the dash AND one that has the correct adapters to screw into the thermostat housing. They are pretty cheap at auto stores--I have even picked them up at auctions (although I like new--when I purchase at an auction, first thing I think of is," if this worked--it would still be on something.)
I would really like to emphasize that you SHOULD get something in the dash--one of the main killers of these engines is a cracked block. This can come from overheating and/or freezing. If you mow and move snow, you could be suseptable to either. If cost is an issue, you could stop by a small auto shop in you area and see if they have any they have taken out--however, I would be suspicious if they work. I have to see you gamble a $1000.00 engine on a used temp. guage.
Hope this helps, Mark

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Jim31

06-15-2007 18:22:39




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to mark from the fort, 06-15-2007 05:17:58  
Yes, your information helps - not what I wanted to read but figured that was most likely the case. Was hoping for an easy fix. Thank you.

Jim



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Gerald J.

06-15-2007 20:29:02




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jim31, 06-15-2007 18:22:39  
The gauge and sensor are all one piece. A length of capillary tubing with a bulb at the engine end is permanently connected to the indicator. Its filled with a liquid that expands when its hot. There's been reports on changing the length by freezing the liquid before cutting and splicing but otherwise when the tubing has been broken, the fluid is gone and the only fix is replacement.

The bulb is held by a clamping nut, so you need to loosen that before you try pulling the remains of the bulb out. You also need to lower the coolant level below that level or you will have it all over that part of the engine and you.

A gauge can be had with various lengths of tube. Being long is no great problem, it coils up without damage so long as its not bent so tight it crimps. Being too short is bad, it doesn't stretch without breaking. So measure the distance from the gauge to the bulb by whatever route it has to take, and go tour your better car parts places for a universal temperature gauge, probably NAPA has the best odds or visit tractor parts places on line, like YTMAG and others. It won't break the bank to buy one and there's only one other fix that is more expensive, an electric gauge and sensor.

Gerald J.

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Jim31

06-16-2007 17:30:08




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Gerald J., 06-15-2007 20:29:02  
Gerald,

Thank you, the information you provided is very helpful. I'm not too concerned about the cost of the gauge it's the transport into town that gets pricey - I don't have a large trailer so round trip is about $150. Labor and parts add up too but the real kicker is time, the last repair took four weeks. Anyway, that's life. I'll try to remove the sensor and again, thank you. Your reply wil make that a much easier effort.

Jim

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mark from the fort

06-18-2007 12:17:48




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to Jim31, 06-16-2007 17:30:08  
What do you mean transport? Are you taking the tractor with you get the gauge?
It is really a simple procedure. For the money you are talking about....ask a friend to purchase you one from ebay (making sure it is the correct length) and have it sent to you address. Sometimes the 3-5.00$ shipping charge is way better than driving into town. Just place gauge into dash and tighten into place-then fish the temp. unit down the dash down the same side of engine. Usually there will be places to fish the line through that actually hold the line inplace. Thread adapter (if needed) into thermostat housing and thread temp. unit into place. If running too cool, may need to place thermostat as well. This is a little more intensive, but not difficult at all.
Regards, Mark

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Jim31

06-20-2007 18:43:59




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 Re: TO35 Temp Gauge Work Around? in reply to mark from the fort, 06-18-2007 12:17:48  
All,

The sensor/sender and thermostat are out; the tractor is still behind the house. You're right, the work isn't complex but setting aside time, well . . . anyway, once the elbow was off and thermostat was out the sensor/sender simply dropped out after applying a torch. The previous owner seems to have simply glued it in to place. The new gauge and thermostat will go back in/on this weekend. Thank you for your information, once I learned a little from your posts I was comfortable w/ the work. Again, thanks.

Jim

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