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Hello, from a new TO-20 owner!

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DoubleK

05-04-2007 12:54:42




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Hello, I live in So. Indiana and just purchased a TO-20 with a Woods finish mower to use on some property I've owned for several years. The tractor is my first and I'm anxious to get it dirty and also have some fun on it! I'm glad to come across your forum and will surely have some questions. I just purchased a manual and have quickly learned that before I do anything I need to FIRST check for the 'FAT-BLUISH-WHITE SPARK'!! My first question is this: With the PTO engaged, the tractor wants to automaticaly lift the deck all the way up. I have to constantly keep my hand on the height control lever to keep it down. Should I be able to set the height lever to a possition and keep the deck at that height?

Thanks again for any help, and glad to be here!
GP

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rich3

05-07-2007 15:41:51




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
It may have been a along time but our farm TE-20 tractor I belive same as a TO-20 for practical purposes used the same hydralic lift system, we used it for many things, plowing was one, I remember there was a mid point on the lift lever , drop it or raise it and you could find a mid point where the lift would hold the height.Mayme a fine hand would be involved, but I was only 16 years old and could hold an implement at any height, Plowing or in your case should be the same case as mowing. Try it some more.

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Rick Weaver

05-04-2007 19:50:46




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
Hi, Bill-SC has a good suggestion too and it won't cost you anything to try it out to see if you like it.



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rusty nut

05-04-2007 17:54:06




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
I don't know what you mean by only up or down?I can stop an implement any where i want,from all the way up to all the way down and anywhere in between,you set the height where you want when you use a rake or blade.



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Bill - SC

05-04-2007 17:14:25




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
I copied this from the forum sometime ago. It explains setting up a rotory cutter on a TO 20 or 30 which do not have position control. I did not write this, not sure who did, but it works well on my TO 30. Hope it helps you. It takes a little time so be patient. Make sure the front of the cutter is a little lower than the back and it will cut more efficiently.

If anyone knows who wrote this plse. let us know so they can receive due credit

"Setting Up a Bush Hog i have sold and serviced hogs for years and see this all the time. PLEASE don't take this wrong but it's a real common mistake that they are not beening mounted right.i know what your thinking how hard is it to put a hog on a tractor and go cut some grass? but!! your hog has a tail wheel right? your tractor has 2 lower lift arms right? set your hog on a 4x4 so it is level lower your tail wheel so it's on the ground. now put your tractor on but[[[[ DON'T]]] hook up the PTO with tractor running put the 3pt. control lever in the middle of the range and turn your top link so it will get longer and you will feel you 3pt. raise just a little and the stop but when you make the top link long it will raise a little more that because the control piston under the set is being pushed in and that makes you 3pt. lift untill the pressure is releasted.with a little fine tuning and a little setting of the tail wheel up or down for the height of cut you want your hog will cut at the height you want. if you have ANY questions call me i will help you set it right 1-920-446-3296 your hog should not be hanging on the tractor when your cutting but rideing on the tail wheel and the 3pt. at a set height and that is controled by your top link. good luck and if you need help call"

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Jerry/MT

05-05-2007 13:49:19




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to Bill - SC, 05-04-2007 17:14:25  
A guy with the handle of marlowe wrote these instructions.



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Jerry/MT

05-04-2007 17:12:28




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
If you are going to mow with this tractor, please make sure to equip it with a an over running clutch(ORC) on the PTO. The PTO is transmission driven so that the final drive will be connected to the PTO even when you have the clutch fullly depressed. The rotational inertia of the mower will continue to drive the tractor forward in this condition and could cause an accident with potentatially serious injury. The ORC transmits torque only one way and will not allow the rotating blades drive the tractor.
Be safe! A Purdue Boilermaker and former Hoosier.

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Rick Weaver

05-04-2007 14:19:16




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
Welcome to the world of Ferguson owners who love their tractors!

On the 20, there is no position adjustment (meaning that a certain position on the lever corresponds to a certain height). There is really only up or down, and variations on how fast it goes either direction.

Are you saying that the handle "drifts" upward while you're trying to use the mower?

You'll have loads of fun if this is your first tractor, and the biggest rule is to have fun WHILE being safe. Don't try to adjust anything on the mower while the PTO is running. And more common sense things. Clothing can get wrapped around a PTO shaft quite easily.

If the tractor runs well at all speeds, don't worry about checking for the FBWS. You only need to check for that if you think you have an ignition problem.

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Doublek

05-04-2007 16:54:59




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to Rick Weaver, 05-04-2007 14:19:16  
Thanks for the welcome! I guess I was thinking more like a multiple position control rather than just up or down. Like I could place the lift/lower control lever at a certain position and that's where it would remain. So if it's either up or down, what do I do to set the height of my Woods finish mower that only has wheels out the back? Do I use the chains to restrict how low the deck can go and then just put the lever in the down positon and let the chains stop it before it actualy 'bottoms out' or do I let the arms go all the way down and then set the mower deck up to the height I want?

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Rick Weaver

05-04-2007 19:48:32




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to Doublek, 05-04-2007 16:54:59  
You have the right idea with the limit chains. I've gotten a set at a local show, but can't remember who made them - you should be able to find them at some of the parts suppliers on my web site at www.oldfergusontractors.com.

This is an issue with my bushhog that I have - I always drag out the limit chains when I use it. My Woods finish mower has wheels on the front as well - if someone has taken those off of yours, it would be best if you found replacements at a Woods dealer.

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John(UK)

05-04-2007 14:13:18




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 Re: Hello, from a new TO-20 owner! in reply to DoubleK, 05-04-2007 12:54:42  
If the lever keeps moving up on its own it will cause the Hydraulics to lift the mower. To stop the lever moving unless you move it, tighten the castellated nut at the bottom and that will clamp it up. If for any reason it doesn't stop it moving, it means that the round friction disc is worn away or gone very hard and is glazed so it won't grip anymore. You can get a new friction disc from Sparex dealers as part S60635. With the Hydraulics as they are on your tractor you can't hold the mower at a any given height, it has to runs on the floor or be raised, it can be done but you will need to fit a Position Control kit to your tractor If you need more help, email me at :-
[email protected]
just tell me what you want to know and I can tell you or send the information in detail...John

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