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Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting

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Krout

04-03-2007 22:18:42




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Any facts & opinions on using a chemical stripper vs. sand blasting when restoring an old tractor?




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gerard

04-04-2007 14:54:54




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Krout, 04-03-2007 22:18:42  
Having dealt with many rusty projects (old marine engines etc) over many years, I'd always recommend grit blasting for rust or old paint. The secret is to do it before stripping down. It's fairly easy then to blank off things (remove starter & fit blanking plate, remove alternator / generator, remove carb & blank manifoild, tie rope around crank to protect c'shaft oil seal etc). Plug dipstick tube, crankcase breather etc. Sounds a lot, but all that shouldn't take more than an hour and a half. Then grit blast everything & prime to stop rust. Makes disassembly a cinch (bolts are clean) and no grit should have got inside where it can do damage. However, as it's going to be stripped anyway, where's the problem? Also, grit blasting gives a wonderful key for paint, and gets to the bottom of pitted areas - something grinding / sanding / stripper can't.

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John (TR)

04-04-2007 14:36:04




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Krout, 04-03-2007 22:18:42  
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On the couple of tractors I've done, I've taken everything off from the main body (engine trans, rear end) that will come off and sandblasted. The body I used stripper on and then wire brushes using air tools and small 4.5" angle head grinder with wire wheels.
Sand ends up everywhere and I'm not brave enough to sandblast the engine/transmission although I know people who do. I think what paint remains if it survived paint stripper and wire wheels its not coming loose.

I use stripper on everything now as it cuts down on the amount of sand to buy and wear and tear on the compressor. The last 8n I did I used 5 quarts of stripper and did the whole tractor. Sand blasting is a snap if its stripped first.

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gshadel

04-04-2007 09:35:18




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Krout, 04-03-2007 22:18:42  
JOhn's right, I don't recommend sandblasting anything you don't want sand in it. Sand will find it's way in, and can be hard to get it all out.
We use a 10,000 psi powerwash at work for stripping paint, etc. You won't find anything like that at your local store though. I've had good luck with paint stripper, then powerwashing with a regular ~3000 psi powerwash unit.

George



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Krout

04-04-2007 09:58:07




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to gshadel, 04-04-2007 09:35:18  
Is there anything you can coat gasket areas or flanges so they won't be eaten up by the paint stripper? I have a stripper that works great and is thick so you brush it on, but I wonder if it will work its way into gaskets and decompose them?



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John (UK)

04-04-2007 06:45:42




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Krout, 04-03-2007 22:18:42  
The problem with sand blasting, while it makes a good job it gets everywhere even though you blank it off. They have started using a very high pressure water washer over here that operates at 25,000psi or thereabouts, now that is good and takes off everything right down to bare metal. It will still damage gaskets though.



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bruc

04-04-2007 10:03:26




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to John (UK), 04-04-2007 06:45:42  
Oven cleaner containing lye (Sodium Hydroxide)does an effective job to remove old paint and grease. Spray it on and let sit overnight.



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Bob (Aust)

04-04-2007 14:27:02




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to bruc, 04-04-2007 10:03:26  
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Watching this thread with particular interest. I am at that point in Fergy restoration where rust removal and re-paint is the next step.

Bruc. No reaction between the Sodium Hydroxide and the aluminum in the transmission casing and other areas?

I was considering sand blasting but have serious concerns where the grit may end up! I'm now trialing a local product "One Step Rust Converter & Primer/Sealer" by Motorspray. The container says:

"In one step it chemically reacts with rust and converts it to a hard inert organic compound and then seals the surface with a tough impervious coating that is a suitable base for subsequent coats of paint. Recommended for the treatment of rusted steel and galvanised surfaces whenever it is not practical to remove the rust completely.

Suitable for use under most paint systems. May be left up to 3 months before priming and top coating. For 2 Pack paints allow 24 hours drying at 20 deg C."

Interestingly, the product appears to convert the rust and form a very hard enamel like coating over the metal.

Only trialing. Not recommending!!

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Bruc

04-05-2007 10:12:10




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Bob (Aust), 04-04-2007 14:27:02  
I used 5 or 6 cans on the exterior of the trans/diff/axle trumpets and let sit overnite on the back of a trailer. It lightly rained on the mess after about 18 hours which may have loosened up more mess. I finally got it the car wash and got 90% of it off. If your doing a restore, what source have you found for Glyptal, the sealer used on the cast iron? Oven cleaner will effectivly also remove that such as I did inside cleaning the inside of the bellhousing due to leakage from my Hupp.

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Krout

04-06-2007 15:42:23




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Bruc, 04-05-2007 10:12:10  
Here is a link to a list of Glyptal distributers:

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Krout

04-06-2007 15:40:20




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 Re: Paint Stripper vs. Sandblasting in reply to Bruc, 04-05-2007 10:12:10  
Glyptal is available at any local electric motor rewind shop --- usually available by the qt. size.



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