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Live PTO lever

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Brent, IN

03-04-2007 17:30:26




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I have a 1953 TO30 that has a tall (20-24 inch) lever that comes out of the pto cover right under the regular pto lever. When pushed forward it takes the tractor out of gear but allows the pto to continue to operate. When released, it springs back and the tractor gear engages once again. Pretty neat. Does anyone have any more info on this? Any written materials, diagrams, service manuals, etc.? Thanks.

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mark from the fort

03-05-2007 19:17:39




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 Re: Live PTO lever in reply to Brent, IN, 03-04-2007 17:30:26  
I can't remember which side, but the ones on the right side (I think) that come out of the round plate I think were the "howard" or English rearends that are pretty rare...as stated prior, they were the only ones to slow the ground speed and NOT affect the p.t.o speed.
I also think there is a lever on the left side that is equally as rare and this one was an aftermarket attempt at a two stage clutch (which is what I think you have) that was made for the N series fords and the early fergy's. This would do as you describe and stop forward motion when activated and allow the p.t.o. to continue--Example: when mowing and you get into some REALLY thick stuff, instead of killing tractor--just engage handle long enough to allow mower to take care of business, and release and forward motion will resume. My opinion is these are more rare than the English rearends. Sounds like yours is working correctly. Congrats.

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Jerry/MT

03-06-2007 10:47:10




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 Re: Live PTO lever in reply to mark from the fort, 03-05-2007 19:17:39  
If this a a two stage clutch, there must be more involved than just the clutch mechanism. Doesn't the two stage clutch require an inner and outer concentric shafts,one driving the PTO and the other the tranny? I'm not sure of myself on this but I think that's how live pto works.



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mark form the fort

03-06-2007 10:52:10




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 Re: Live PTO lever in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-06-2007 10:47:10  
Maybe that wasn't the best choice of words-but I do believe this is some sort of device to create "live p.t.o" I often use the two synonamously when there is a distinction.



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John (UK)

03-05-2007 14:32:13




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 Re: Live PTO lever in reply to Brent, IN, 03-04-2007 17:30:26  
We had this a few weeks back, from what we were told at the time it is a Sherman attachment, very rare though by all accounts. It is something that many TO20/30 users would really like, live PTO and Hydraulics.



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gshadel

03-05-2007 10:46:01




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 Re: Live PTO lever in reply to Brent, IN, 03-04-2007 17:30:26  
Brent, I have not heard of quite the gizmo you describe, but it sounds quite neat, wish I had one! You may want to post your question over on the N board if you don't hear anything here soon. Most the Sherman, Everret, Hupp, Howard, etc. aux. drive equipment bolted-up to N's & Fergys both. The tranny & hydraulics are virtually identical. That type of stuff seems a bit more common in the N's, probably cause they made about a kazillion N's thru the 40's & 50's.

George

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