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Pulling Stumps

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Krout

03-04-2007 06:38:44




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Any experience pulling stumps with your tractors? Size, do's & don'ts. Chains, straps, etc.?




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gshadel

03-05-2007 10:01:09




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
I found by accident that the 3PT subsoilers actually do a good job pulling stumps. I got close to ~4-5" stump with my subsoiler one day, the subsoiler ripped the roots right out and threw the stump over on it's side. Since then, I use the subsoiler on stumps all the time. If the stump is only 3-4 " diam, I usually just drop the subsoiler behind the stump and take off, the stump usually pops right out. On bigger stumps, I rip on several sides of the stump to rip out the roots, then pull the stump. The biggest stump I've pulled is maybe 12" diameter.

George

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Boss Hog

03-05-2007 06:41:04




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
I"ve messed around with a lot of stumps, with varying amounts of success.

First thing I do is angle my rear mounted blade as far as it will go, then cut into the ground to try to rip out as many roots as I can.

Then I turn the blade around backwards. I back up to the stump, and hook a chain from the stump to the tractor.

First I pull on the stump using the chain. Then I back up and push on the stump with the blade. If you lift the blade as you push it puts weight on the rear tractor tires and gives you more traction.

By pushing AND pulling it seems to loosen the stumps quicker.

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John (TR)

03-04-2007 21:03:53




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
I took out some yewe? bushes a couple of years ago and its suprising how tuff even bushes can be. I bent an Indian made drawbar and had my 2N front end up off the ground a couple of times pulling from the drawbar. I would think you will meed something bigger for tree stumps.



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John Mason, Michigan

03-04-2007 16:56:34




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
Krout, There are a lot of variables. Root system, soil type, etc. I like to hook up to the front casting. I do not like to crash and bang on the 3 point system. I have pulled a few stumps. Be sure to loop the chain around a couple times and "choke" the stump. A chain flying through the air is not just dangerous it can be deadly. If the stump does not give then let it go. Our soil is rich black dirt and it just gives way most of the time. I have kicked stumps that were as solid as can be only to jerk em out in 2 or 3 pulls. Test the water with each one and be careful!

John

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Krout

03-04-2007 16:02:26




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
O'kay. As my son would say, I may be dumb but I'm not stupid! Funny thing is, the Operator's Manual that originally came with the TO30 shows the operator pulling a stump, it just warns to connect low on the tractor.

I'll play it safe.



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Jerry/MT

03-04-2007 14:47:57




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
I don't know what size stumps you are talking about, but unless they very small or are all ready loose enough to drag, in my opinion, YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT! That's work better left to a crawler tractor with a headache rack on the back. A lot of folks have been seriously injured in a turn over doing this. If you must do it, do not pull with anything higher than the low mounted fixed drawbar(not the 3 pt drawbar) and ease into it. Chains can slip off and become lethal as they fly back at you. So can straps. If you don't know what you are doing get someone with experience to show you how. you owe it to yourself and your family. Be Safe!

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phil(va)

03-04-2007 10:53:59




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
If you don't have access to a tracked crawler to push the stump, a four wheel drive truck is much better than a normal tractor. It will pull better and is much safer.



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Ed H-OH

03-04-2007 08:45:04




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
Hello. Pulling that hard under high power you run the risk of a wheel slipping and grabing a hold again and this can put severe shock on the transmission and rearend and result in expensive damage . I've dug them out with my small backhoe, But i so time consuming and hard on the hoe it not really worth it. I do have one tip that works very well is dig around it and saturate the ground with water first , it will pull 10 times easier. If you are clearing groud for farming i would recomend the dozer etc. If it's in you're yard a grinder for hire is the most cost effective as you dont have a hole to fill in and a nasty stump to get rid of. And you can let someone else take all the risk for a small price as compared to a blowed rearend.-ed

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Gerald J.

03-04-2007 07:46:18




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
Hitch the chain to the tractor low, never on the upper three point or around the axle. Not even on the three point draft arms, only on the drawbar bolted to the BOTTOM of the final drive. Even a small tractor will flip over the rear axle if hitched high and it will do it too fast to get out of the way. Its how many neophytes commit suicide that they hadn't planned.

Consider a longer chain hitched to the rear drawbar then run under the tractor and hitched to the stump out front and pull backwards. Unfortunately reverse is faster than first in many tractors and the tire treads don't have as much dig in reverse.

Gerald J.

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MARK FROM THE FORT

03-04-2007 07:22:34




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
I hope this are really small. I have tried to pull 5" and 6" stumps of just bushes and shrubs from around my house and you'd be surprised how strong and elaborate a root system can be.
I agree with the other fella about digging and cutting as much as you can.
I will add that you should NOT put chain on the lift arms (around a drawbar for example) It is important to remembet that these tractors will keep trying to pull, and will lift the front end straight up-can be scary. some tractors have a bracket under the differential for mounting a bar. This is a better location for the chain hook.
Having said that, let me back up and suggest a method I just said NOT to do. On the stubborn ones, I would dig as much as I could around the stump, pull with a chain just enough to raise front end a foot or less off the ground-put brake on tractor (while still in air) and turn tractor off! Then I could axe or chain saw selected roots and the weight of the tractor will help "POP" stump from ground. I cannot recommend this, but I will offer it as a suggestion. I have also used this technique, with a boom, to pull old fence posts from the ground.-with tractor front up in the air, and the end of boom over fence post, a few quick wiggles of the post and they gradually walk up out of hole. Please be carefull Mark

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Jerry/MT

03-04-2007 15:01:17




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to MARK FROM THE FORT, 03-04-2007 07:22:34  
Respectfully Mark, I am glad you are still here using that technique to pull stumps;"...pull with a chain just enough to raise the front end about a foot or less off the ground..." That's dangerously close to a turn over.



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steveormary

03-04-2007 06:55:42




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to Krout, 03-04-2007 06:38:44  
Kraut;

Be careful. What size stumps are you pulling.How much of the tree trunk is left. What tractor will you be using.You may have to dig around he stump and cut some roots. I have pulled some stumps with my TO30 but mostly used my 706 German with about 400# wt. on the front.

It might be best to hire a back hoe or bulldozer to take them out.

Be carefull
steveormary



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Bob (Aust)

03-04-2007 13:17:22




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 Re: Pulling Stumps in reply to steveormary , 03-04-2007 06:55:42  
If you own a Fergy, my advice is don't try to pull stumps! For very small stumps, I made up a towing plate to bolt to the bottom of the transmission and pulled from there (tends to pull the front wheels down) and loaded my front carry all, but I still don't feel comfortable.

I've used a small auger post hole borer on the Fergy, drilled around the stump, cut a few roots if necessary, then used a wire rope hand 4WD recovery winch strapped to another tree to pull the stump.

But if the stump is over 6 to 8 inches I suggest you hire a bit of muscle, designed for the task.

To be honest, my Toyota Landcruiser Prado 4WD does a better job at small stump pulling than the Fergy.

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