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TO20 brake question

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gshadel

03-01-2007 09:14:13




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I've had good reason to work my brakes with a couple snow storms lately. Between the snow & ice, pretty much the only way to steer at times is by using the left/right brake peddles. Got stuck a couple times too. Gotta get some chains.
I installed new brakes last year, they work good, but I think I need an adjustment.
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Anyway, the question - when I stomp my left brake, it tends to release when I take my foot off the left peddle. When I stomp my right brake peddle, it tends to hold until I hit the main brake peddle to reset the brakes.
Which one is correct? I kind-of like the convenience of the left peddle releasing, but I think I've read the right one is acting the way it is suppose too.
thanks

George

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gshadel

03-02-2007 04:21:10




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to gshadel, 03-01-2007 09:14:13  
thanks for the comments. I'm actually looking at getting either the style John shows on his, which these guys call "Duo-Grip", or the double ring logging chains. I've read a couple good reviews on both styles. The double rings are cheaper than the dou-grips. I've heard the dou-grips can rattle your teeth on hard ground .
Any of you guys using these double ring type?

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Jerry/MT

03-02-2007 10:04:18




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to gshadel, 03-02-2007 04:21:10  
The only thing negative that I heard about the double ring type is that they wear relatively quickly. I think I heard that in one of the forums.



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John (TR)

03-01-2007 17:35:29




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to gshadel, 03-01-2007 09:14:13  
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Here is an example of the chains that cross the tread and can't drop into the voids. These probably need tightened one more link on the inside as they have loosened up a bit after being run and are shifting to the outside where I use tarp straps to take up the slack

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mike a. tenn.

03-01-2007 14:27:46




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to gshadel, 03-01-2007 09:14:13  
george...granted my to-20 needs some brake work, but they've never behaved like you described. they both release as soon as i let off of the pedal. i suspect you might have some snow or ice or gunk caked inside your right drum, or that your right side brake may have a weak or broken retracting spring. you might also wanna check out what mark said and make sure your brake lock pawl isn't catching somehow. those are the onlyest things i can think of....

-mike

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mark from the fort

03-01-2007 13:28:19




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to gshadel, 03-01-2007 09:14:13  
I do not have a TO 20, but since it is the right side, could it be a problem with the emergency brake latch. On a TO 35, there is a toe-clip right there on the pedal . On my older fords, they have a latch brake back near the axle trumpet. I do not know where (or even "if") the 20's have such a feature, but just hoping to help.
Mark



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mike a. tenn.

03-01-2007 14:17:49




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to mark from the fort, 03-01-2007 13:28:19  
hey mark...my to-20 has a brake lock very similar to my to 35...'cept my 20 doesn't have the toe release...it might be missing.

-mike



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mark from the fort

03-01-2007 13:32:47




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to mark from the fort, 03-01-2007 13:28:19  
Do you have equal "free play" in both pedals before the breaks start to grab? I was wondering if it is possible to have the right side pads too close to the drums and when you are working them as hard as you stated, maybe the expanded enough to start "grabbing"? Just a thought. Mark



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Jerry/MT

03-01-2007 11:30:31




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 Re: TO20 brake question in reply to gshadel, 03-01-2007 09:14:13  
George, I just checked the shop manual and there's no mention of the situation you are describing about the right brake peddle. My TO-30 doesn't behave that way either. Each brake behaves independently and releases when I release the independent pedal.
When you get chains don't get the "ladder" chains. Get the ones that have the chain between the "ladder rungs". I hope that makes sense to you. The cross links on ladder type drop down between the cleats and become ineffective. I followed the tirechains.com recommendations and got the ladder chains with bars for icy conditions and, in my opinion, their recomendations are wrong. I should have gotten the ones with the bars on the cross links with chains between the cross links. I have since managed to get the cross links across the cleats and then get them tightened real good and they remain effective but it's additional work to do this especially with a set of chains that weigh about 80 lbs each!
Hope this helps you.

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