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RockyMO

02-04-2007 09:42:08




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Hi guys, I am new to the Ferguson world, I know quite a bit about the old fords but little about the Fergusons. What is the difference in the TO models versus the TE models? I purchased a TO30 a few months ago and have been very pleased with it but am curious as to what else is out there. Thanks,

Rocky in MO




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Jeff-oh

02-04-2007 11:34:49




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 Re: model differences in reply to RockyMO, 02-04-2007 09:42:08  
Here is a list of some of the physical differences in the TE-TO's.

A) SN Tag- TO's SN is at top of Tag and starts with the letters "TO" TE's SN is at the bottom of the Tag and starts with the letters "TE"

B) Transmission Case: TO's are case steel, TE are cast aluminum.

C) Steering Column. TO's have a two piece steering column and transmission cover (i.e. the plate with the gear shift lever and the steering column are seperate.

TE's have a one piece steering column and transmission cover.

D) Tool Box Placement. TO's have the tool box between the gas tank and the radiator. TE's have the tool box mounted just below the battery on the left side (i.e. 9N style)

E) Hood latchs TO's have a hood release lever on the lower left side of the dash. TE's have two hood lock "T" handels one on either side of the dash.

F) Hood hold open devices. TO's latch the hood open at the hinge point. TE's have a "V" hood support attached at the front of the fuel tank. This rides in rails on the lower edge of the hood. TO's do not have these pieces.

G) Dog legs. (hood side panels) TO's have dog legs where the the top goes only about 1/4 the length of the hood. TE's have upper dog legs that run the entire hood length.

H) Fuel filter placement. (Glass Bowl) TO's fuel filter is near the rear of the fuel tank TE's fuel filter is closer to the middle of the fuel tank (2/3 of the way front to back)

I) Electrical system TO's have AC Delco electronics and the distributor has push on plug wires. TE's have lucus electronics and the distributor has screw-on plug wires.

These are a few of the visible differences that should allow you to ID what you have. Replacement parts through the years may mean that not all these differences are on your tractor.

The TO-30 has the air intake from a screen on the dash while the TO/TE-20's intake air at the top of the air filter.

The TO-30 has a Contential Z129 engine ~ 30 HP the -20's have a Contential Z120 engine ~ 22 HP.

That Said the TE (letter series i.e. TEA,TEB,TED,TEF etc.) are another story. Each letter signifies a different model.. i.e Gas, TVO fueled, Diesel, Vinard, Industrial etc. For more information there are several good books out there.

Jeff.

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Jeff-oh

02-04-2007 13:06:35




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 Re: model differences in reply to Jeff-oh, 02-04-2007 11:34:49  
From the Neb. Tractor test's

Ferg. TO-30: Test #466- Belt HP 29 Drawbar HP 24
Ford 9N/2N: Test #339- Belt HP 23 Drawbar HP 17
Ferg. TE/TO-20 Test 392 Belt HP 25 Drawbar HP 20
Ford 8N:--- Test #393- Belt HP 25 Drawbar HP 21

Your TO-30 is basicly the exact same tractor as a TO-20 except you have a slightly bigger engine. 129 cu-in of displacement vs. 120 cu-in. i.e. z129 VS. z120. Yep that nuimber is the engine displacemet. TO-35's & F-40's have Z-134 engines. With 134 cu-in of displacement.

Jeff.

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RockyMO

02-04-2007 12:46:25




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 Re: model differences in reply to Jeff-oh, 02-04-2007 11:34:49  
Thanks Jeff, Immediately after reading your reply something made a lot of sense to me. In the little time that I have used this Ferguson I kept thinking how storng it runs. I thought it was comparable to a 9N ford with 23 hp. If it has 30 hp as you state, that would explain the extra power. Mine does have a tool box between the radiator and fuel tank but everything else is as you describe the TO version.This is the one I bought. Thanks again for your reply.

Rocky in MO



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