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TO-20 I Think

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Rich1538

01-30-2007 07:12:27




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I am new to this tractor stuff. I used to plow my drive with a gravely 16 hp and it barely did the job. Recently it went up in smoke and I recieved the green light from the Boss lady to purchase somthing bigger. I found a TO20 I think. It starts fine and runs okay. The only thing is the brakes don't work or are out of adjustment. After reading some of the posts I don't know what exactly I have. The right brake lever is solid and moves only a inch or two and the left brake lever moves the whole way to the floor. Neither brake to works well when I step on the actual brake pedal. Help is needed to this new comer to tractors

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phil(va)

01-30-2007 14:58:52




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Rich1538, 01-30-2007 07:12:27  
Not to scare you, but sometimes brake problems are associated with leaking axle seals which can soak the brakes with the mineral oil used to lubricate the tranny and rear end and hydraulics in these tractors. It sounds like you have a mechanical problem with your brakes, but you could also have shoes soaked with oil. If so you will need to replace the axle seals. This too isn't such a bad job, and frankly one of the easiest ways to do it is to pull the axles and take them to a shop and have them do it and then you just slide the axles back in. If the rear tires are loaded with fluid they will weigh perhaps 400 lbs, so be careful, but you can do it yourself if you don't let the wheel and tire fall to the floor. A second person makes it much easier. Keep kids and pets away.

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gshadel

01-30-2007 13:30:59




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Rich1538, 01-30-2007 07:12:27  
Rich...,

A TO 20 will plow your drive with ease... and a WHOLE LOT MORE. Once you start using it, you will wonder how you ever managed without it.
Check your serial #, and engine model like Jerry says to find out for sure which model your dealing with, then get yourself a re-print Ferguson Shop manual, you can get them off this site, and other places as well. Don't get a IT shop manual, those are lame.

Brakes are pretty straight forward to fix & simpler than car brakes. Getting that big tire off is the hardest part. All the parts are available, and reasonably priced. Sounds like you need some adjusting for sure, probably need to pull the drums and see what's going on in there. The Fergy Shop manual walks you thru all of it. Lots of us have been thru that and can give you pointers if you get into it.

George

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Jerry/MT

01-30-2007 13:11:38




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Rich1538, 01-30-2007 07:12:27  
On the dash abovethe steering wheel there's a plate with number on it like TO ABCDE. If it's a number between TO 00001 and TO 60000, you have a TO-20. If it's between TO 60001 and some where around TO 140000, it's TO-30.
There is a data plate on the engine on the left hand side above the coil. If you have Z120 Continetal engine you have a TO-20. If it's a Z129, you have TO-30. If there is an oil filter on the right side of the engine it's a Z129 engine and it's TO-30.
Brakes are weak point on these older tractors. They're mechanically actuated and not like hydraulic brakes on a car. You may need an adjustment,or new brake shoes, or new rear axle seals and shoes because the differential leaked oil out of the rear axle seals.

Hope this helps you.

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Rich1538

01-30-2007 18:34:19




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Jerry/MT, 01-30-2007 13:11:38  
O-kay I see the serial number is 30730 which says its a 1950 t0-20. But in other posts I see that To 20"s are to have a slot inwhich the brakes are adjusted. I have a bolt wher the slot is supposed to be. Which way dose that bolt turn to tighten the brakes? One brake pedal is so hard I can barley move it, the other is so loose it goes to the floor. No oil/fluid os seeping from the brake drums so I don"t think that the seals are bad. Another question is what size blade should I use on it 6" or 7"? Thanks for the info and be prepared for lots more questions. Oh yeah it snowed here about 4" tonight and it"s still snowing. I didn"t look to see what engine was on it (had to shovel snow) Thanks alot... Rich1538

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Jerry/MT

01-31-2007 09:48:15




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Rich1538, 01-30-2007 18:34:19  
"6" or 7"???? I think you mean 6' or 7' don't you. I have a 7' blade on my TO-30.
Your brake drum sounds like the one on the TE-20. to adjust those brakes, you have a "centralizer nut" and a square "adjuster screw", per the Ferguson manual.

Jack up the rear wheels.Disengage the brakes and make sure all the shafts turn freely. Loosen the centrlizer nut until the shoes are fully expanded in the drum and the wheel is locked. Tighten the centralizer nut and then loosen the adjuster shank(sic) until the wheel is free to turn with out drag.

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Rich1538

01-31-2007 10:18:33




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Jerry/MT, 01-31-2007 09:48:15  
I tried to put in the foot mark but the editor got confused with it. Where would find a good manual for the tractor? Is the centralizer nut just below the square (sic) nut? Dose both wheels have to be off the ground or can I do one at a time?

Thanks For the help...



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Jerry/MT

01-31-2007 20:46:47




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Rich1538, 01-31-2007 10:18:33  
Yes it's right below the square nut. You can do one wheel at a time. In my opinion, you need three manuals, the Ferhuson Shop Manual, The Parts Manual for the TO-20, TO-30 and TE-20(it's one book)and the TO-20 Owners Manual. The Shop Manual has very good systems descriptions so you get some understanding of how things work. The parts manuals has explodeed views of the parts so you get a good idea of what goes where. The owners manual tells you how to operate the tractor and the various controls and how to make minor adjsutments. These manuals will pay for themselves with your first repair.

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mike a. tenn.

01-31-2007 10:26:20




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 Re: TO-20 I Think in reply to Rich1538, 01-31-2007 10:18:33  
owner's manuals, and shop manuals can be ordered from your local agco dealer, or you can get them right on this web-site. look up in the top left margin of this page under "Market Place". the fiirst thing you'll see under it is "tactor manuals" i think i saw there where if you order more than one manual you get a free serial number guide! yuou'll never be sorry you paid the money for your manuals.

-mike

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