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mike a. tenn.

01-23-2007 07:26:21

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john, i did do this first thing this morning. hope you can see them alright. i made the brackets to use existing fender bolts so i didn't have to drill new holes in my sheet metal.

for hydr. control valve bracket i used 5/16x2" flatstock, 27-1/2" for strength and stiffness. might have gotten away with 1/4". i built up at the fender holes with 1/4" to clear the roll bead in the fender. 1/4"x4"-7-1/2" high for the valve plate. welded the bolt heads to the back to make studs.

with control valve attached. showing right side sunshade bracket...separate piece. made this bracket because the brackets that came with the shade were tubular and would have been in the way of my hydr. control.

left side sunshade bracket. made this to match right side. for these brackets i used 1/4"x1-1/2" flatstock. they're about 22" long. heated and bent curves and angles

from back of tractor showing quick connect bracket attached to bracket i made using a stud also. no new holes in my sheet metal.

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lonestarjeff

01-24-2007 15:39:57

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Re: pics as promised in reply to mike a. tenn., 01-23-2007 07:26:21

Mike...REALLY nice work! I too would like to use your pics for a future project of mine.

What do you use the rear remotes for?

Jeff

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mike a. tenn

01-24-2007 15:53:09

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Re: pics as promised in reply to lonestarjeff, 01-24-2007 15:39:57

jeff...the main reason i installed it is so i can use a hay rake with my tractor. my neighbor and i cut and bale a lot of hay off both our places and a few others. we used to switch off on the raking and baling using his tractor, but it dawned on me that if i could run ahead of him with the rake while he baled it would save us a lot of time...but i needed hydraulics to lift the rake arms. also, we heat our place with wood all winter and i don't know how much longer i'm going to be able to swing that splitting maul. i think there's gonna be a hydraulic log splitter in my near future. i'll either build one or maybe pick one up if i can find a reasonable one at a couple of the auctions we have coming up here. my wife has already given me the ok to buy one as she's getting tired of hearing me moan and groan all night after a day cutting and splitting. getting old is kinda bad, but like my dad always said...consider the alternative. he also said: work smarter, not harder.

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lonestarjeff

01-24-2007 19:54:32

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Re: pics as promised in reply to mike a. tenn, 01-24-2007 15:53:09

Mike...I read your earlier post explaining about the rake, right after leaving my post. I also meant to ask where you tapped into the TO's hyds for your remote. Do you have to lock down the rear lift?

I know what you mean about the wood splitting, I just did quite a bit of that this weekend. I'm still using the old-fashioned wedge & sledge method. I like the 3-point wood-splitter idea too. Will the TO's hyds develope enough pressure to run a spltter?

Jeff

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mike a. tenn.

01-24-2007 21:38:35

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Re: pics as promised in reply to lonestarjeff, 01-24-2007 19:54:32

jeff...i don't know what kind of tractor you have. on my TO-35, and on MF 135's there is a plate held down with two bolts on the chassis below the right hand corner of the seat. under this plate is the standpipe from your hydr. pump. i can't remember if my TO-20 has this plate or not. you'll have to buy an isolator valve to mount where this plate is which will connect it to the standpipe. you conmnect your hoses from this isolator valve to your control valve, then hoses from the control valve to your quick connect couplers. i purchased my set up from TISCO. it comes with the isolator valve, control valve, hoses and quick connects and bracket to fit my tractor. it also has some fittings in the kit for hooking up the hoses, but i ended up having to buy a couple reduced 90's to fit it in the way i wanted it. when you switch the isolator valve to the remote position, you can't operate the lifts and they may bleed off eventually. i plan to tie mine up and out of the way as i won't need them to pull the rake. i'm 99% sure my hydraulics will run a log splitter, but i guess i won't be positive until i actually hook one up to it. if you get the kit and have any trouble, write me here and i'll try to help you if i can.

--mike

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lonestarjeff

01-24-2007 23:57:28

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Re: pics as promised in reply to mike a. tenn., 01-24-2007 21:38:35

Mike...if I remember right the 35 was the first Fergy w/ the adapter plate on the lift cover. The 30's & some of the later 20's did have multiple tap locations for hydr pressure, but you had to lock the lift arms.

When I installed a loader on my 165 I found out there was no way to have both loader control & rear lift at the same time using the factory valve(s) on the lift cover, so I ended up installing a front pump & remote valve for the loader. All worked out for the best, though, because the pump & valve could be had alot cheaper than the factory lift cover valve alone!

Ironically, my '56 Ford 860's factory hyds are more advanced than the 165, a '68 model. The 860 has remote & rear lift control at the same time using the lift cover valves.

Your 135 looks kinda like an orchard model w/ those big rear tires, is it gas or diesel?

Jeff

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mike a. tenn.

01-25-2007 04:04:37

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Re: pics as promised in reply to lonestarjeff, 01-24-2007 23:57:28

jeff, sorry about that last reply being so long and detailed. i didn't realize you already knew about that adapter cover. my tractor is a gas model.

-mike

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John (TR)

01-23-2007 13:08:34

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Re: pics as promised in reply to mike a. tenn., 01-23-2007 07:26:21

Very nice. I plan to copy the photos and save for reference. I really like the valve mount. Most folks just bore holes through the fenders which I dont understand but thats just me. You must have some fabrication experience and access to the equipment.

Thanks for the photos, I'm just about finished wiring the headlights on my 35 and when I do I'll drop the grill in and take some photos in the daylight.

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mike a. tenn.

01-23-2007 13:32:49

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Re: pics as promised in reply to John (TR), 01-23-2007 13:08:34

john, i guess that's why i'm kinda proud of the brackets...i never did ANY kind of work with metal, fabricating or welding, until a few years ago. my equipment is: a chop saw, drill press, 4" angle grinder, bench grinder, O/A torch and tanks, and my new mig welder that i got for christmas. i've had a stick welder for a few years, but this mig makes me such a better welder i can't believe it...that and my auto-darkening welding helmet that i got with the mig.

i agree, for some reason i just can't stand drilling holes in my tractor's sheet metal. i guess i'm thanking whoever owned it before me for not punching holes in it by doing the same?

can't wait to see your "whole" tractor. i'm getting about as excited for you as i get when i do something on my own tractor. love this forum...mike

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