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overunder1

12-30-2006 09:04:31




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After blowing out a piece of rear tire last night while cleaning out the horse barn its time to replace the worn out rears on my TO-30. Question, is 12.4x28 the correct size and is 6 ply enough or do I need 8 ply to deal with all this Mississippi mud.
-Lee
1954 TO30




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Dean

12-30-2006 12:30:32




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to overunder1, 12-30-2006 09:04:31  
Lee:

K-Mo has given you good advice about tire profile with respect to rim width. I have 12.4x28s on my MF-35 and they are about right for the tractor. I could probably go to 13.6s but the wider tires will reduce fender clearance a bit, which could cause a problem if you have your rims set in close and/or use tire chains.

Since you were cleaning out the barn, I suspect that you have a loader on your tractor, and your tires are probably loaded. The 13.6s will hold a bit more fluid then 12.4s at the expense of fender clearance and cost.

Another thought is the apparent recent reduction in tire size by at least some manufactures.

The 10 year old 12.4x28 Armstrongs that I have on my 8N and my MF-35 (both with 10" rims) measure the exact same width as the 13.6x28 Firestones that I bought this year for my Ford 4000 four cylinder with 11" rims. The 10 year old 13.6 Armstrongs that are on my Ford 860 (with 12" rims) are a full 1 1/2 inch wider than the new Firestone 13.6s.

It seems to me that Firestone is downsizing their tires to save materials. I am very dissapointed with the new Firestones and will not buy any more of them.

Finally, if you load your new tires, I suggeest RimGard. It is made from beet juice and is non corrosive and heavier than CaCl.

Dean

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Leroy

01-03-2007 18:18:18




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to Dean, 12-30-2006 12:30:32  
Firestone started that years ago when they brought out the 23* Field and Road models, they were a lot smaller than the 45* tire they were making at that time and we had 1 set of field and road and they would also not clean the mud out of the tread. I have told the enginers at the Firestone tractor tire proving ground that there feild and road models are junk and will never own any more of them.



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K-Mo

12-30-2006 09:34:45




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to overunder1, 12-30-2006 09:04:31  
Measure the inside rim width.
10"-11.2x28
11"-12.4x28
12"-13.6x28
It's not unusual to go one size wider, ie. 12.4x28 on a 10" rim.
I don't think you really need an 8 ply. An 8 ply would give you better protection from phyical abuse but mud wouldn't be a factor in my opinion.

K-Mo



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overunder1

12-30-2006 10:22:12




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to K-Mo, 12-30-2006 09:34:45  
Oops, I forgot to mention there are 12.4x28 tires on the rims now. Is there any advantage to going up one more size to 13.6x28 if I only have 10" rims (will measure this evening) or am I getting into clearance problems with no benefit in paddling about in muddy fields.
-Lee



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Crem

12-30-2006 17:14:53




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to overunder1, 12-30-2006 10:22:12  
I have 13.6 X28 tires on my TO-20 that are over half worn down. They are taller and I found that the increased height increases the ground speed in each gear. Also I hooked on to a 3 point digger or field cultivator or whatever they are called, (the one with the springs) and found out that the extra height of the rear tires causes the tire to hit the frame of the implement at certain heights, so I really can't safely use it. Ohtherwise I like them. They make the tractor look meaner.

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K-Mo

12-30-2006 11:21:39




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to overunder1, 12-30-2006 10:22:12  
The idea for going a size wider is to provide for more tire to ground contact (traction). However, if you put too wide of a tire on a narrow rim, part of the tread will become sidewall.
It would be my guess that 12.4 on a 10" rim would give more ground contact than a 11.2 on a 10" rim but not as much as a 12.4 on an 11". Life's a compromise.
Any tire people I have talked to don't recommend going more than one size wider.

K-Mo

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overunder1

12-30-2006 13:21:16




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to K-Mo, 12-30-2006 11:21:39  
Thanks for the input gang. I do not have a front end loader but with all the recent rain was turning the tires over while pulling my box blade loaded with horse left overs out the barn into the muck and darn if that old tire did not start coming apart. I found a wholesale dealer that has new 6ply ag tires for @150 each in 12.4x28 so off I go Tuesday to pick up a pair. For what its worth, I know for sure that the current tires were not made this century, and not too sure they were made in the last half of the last century either. Heck, they might even pre-date the tractor. -Lee

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overunder1

12-31-2006 09:31:42




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 Re: rear tire selection in reply to overunder1, 12-30-2006 13:21:16  
I never thought about the implement clearance. Went out this morning and checked how much room there was between the box blade and the rear tires while slowly lifting it. There are a couple of spots where it does get real close to the 12.4's even with stabilizer bars so I could just imagine what would happen without them and a larger diameter tire. Thanks again for all the input, 12.4x28 looks like the best replacement for the TO30.
-Lee

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