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Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )!

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Ford Man

12-09-2000 18:17:10




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I went to look at the Ferguson 30 that I posted about a couple of days ago .

Well , it is pretty ugly ( almost as ugly as my 2N was when I got it ! ) but also pretty much complete . Sheet metal is painted a funky blue and the wheels are yellow but it is pretty straight with little rust . There is a lot of play in the steering box but it also does not apear to have any cracks . Needs new lift arm bushings , pins here and there , brakes , rear tires , etc . Overall the tractor looks to need a lot of TLC .

Here is where I need some help .The motor turned over fine but I could not get any spark at all . I went through the whole system and tried everything I know to do . I suspect the coil has gone bad . What are the chances of that ? I could not get any spark at all from the coil even hooking it straight to the battery . The tractor has sat for about 6 months or so . Could moisture have ruined it ?

My next move is to go ahead and buy a new coil , distributor cap , rotor , and plug wires . What kind of cost am I looking at ?

Any other suggestions ?

Here is the deal on the tractor , it comes with the following equipment ( all Ford ) which is slightly rusty but in good shape . Single bottom plow , cultivator , scrape blade , and two row disk . The asking price is $800-1000 for tractor and all .

Good deal ? I would like to have the tractor running before I buy .

Thanks for the help . I know a fair amount about my Ford but not much about Fergusons so I need some help !

Thanks,
Ford Man

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Ray

12-28-2000 20:29:10




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 Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Ford Man, 12-09-2000 18:17:10  
Once, my TO30 failed to start due to no spark. After considerable searching, I found the small wire leading from the coil to the points had a bare spot that shorted it to the dist. housing. I hate electrical problems anyway! Ferguson, like most older vehicles/tractors, use the body,frame, castings etc. for the ground circuit. This causes problems too. Perhaps this info. will help.



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Tom Detweiler

12-14-2000 13:25:07




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 Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Ford Man, 12-09-2000 18:17:10  
Buy this deal -- even if you can't get it going you can get your $ back parting it out, but based on my experience with my TO-30 (already running), I wouldn't hesitate to pay that for the tools, they have cost me more than the tractor and I ain't done yet! The TO-30 has a Continental Z129 engine and these have plenty of power for farm chores and other things; lots of torque when running well. I'd say if you paid what they want for the tractor and tools, haul it yourself and then put another $500-1000 into getting it going you'll never be sorry. I Love My Fergie!
RE the Zane Thang-- I got one and figure I just wasted my money, I can't get it adjusted right or make it work like he says, and my hydraulics work okay. It should cost a third to half what he wants for it, too, it's $10 or less in materials, just a piece of steel rod hooked from the right lift arm to the lift control lever.
Provides feedback, and in theory it should work but the hydraulics operate slowly anyway and the feedback is too slow to work as it should. Some other guys tried and seem to like it, so maybe it's my tractor or me. Get a couple other opinions first. If your hydraulics are working in tip-top shape you might not need it at all, and if they don't work this thing won't do you any good. Kinda a catch-22. One thing I didn't like was it was in the way of the lift arm leveler and blocked using the leveler all the time.
Good luck and keep us posted. -- Tom

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Ford Mn

12-16-2000 10:38:09




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 Re: Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Tom Detweiler, 12-14-2000 13:25:07  
Thanks for all of the info guys !

Here is the deal now ....

I made an offer and was rejected . My co-worker had misunderstood what his Mother-in-Law was asking . She wanted $800-1000 for the tractor alone . He thought that is what she wanted for the whole shooting match ! I have made a counter offer of $1000 for tractor and implements . I should hear something early next week . I am not going to let this one go if I can help it as it does seem to have a lot of potential and I will go higher if I have to .

From what you guys say , the Ferguson 30 is a good strong tractor . My Ford 2N is not bad but I would like some more power . I also want another tractor to use when I rebuild my 2N sometime down the line .

My biggest question is part availabilty and pricing . I don't see as many parts on the internet as I see for Fords . Have I just missed a good source ? I worked on a 1970's MF for my Uncle a few years ago and he told me that he had to pay about twice the price for parts than he did for his 1970's Ford . Anything to that ?

Thanks again for all the help ! I will keep you guys posted as to what happens .

Ford Man

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Paul in NM

12-09-2000 21:21:27




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 Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Ford Man, 12-09-2000 18:17:10  
Be sure and install new points and condensor when you replace your other ignition parts. If you get the engine running and it appears to have no major problems, that would be a pretty fair price, particularly if the tires are in reasonably good shape.

Paul



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Chuck (CA)

12-09-2000 21:01:47




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 Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Ford Man, 12-09-2000 18:17:10  
Hi Ford Man,
Generally, a Fergie is valued about the same as a 2/9/8N. The spark thing is probably minor and could very well be the coil. Is it a 6 volt system and is your Ford coil a 6 also? If so, borow your coil and check it on the Fergie. Of course it wouldn't hurt to change the whole primary ignition system like you talked about. I would probably try a dry and then wet compression test, pull off the gas tank and valve cover and see the condition of the rockers, etc. (BTW, it's much easier to remove a gas tank on a fergie versus an N.)
The hydraulics are very similiar to your Ford, and if you need any help there, try both this board and the N board too. As you probably know, Zane Sherman is a genius on this system and is very generous on sharing his knowledge. Shoot, if you can get the whole magilla for $800.00, the implements alone are probably worth that.
Hope this helps in your decision.
Good Luck,
Chuck

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Ford Man

12-09-2000 21:42:41




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 Re: Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Chuck (CA), 12-09-2000 21:01:47  
Thanks for the advice guys !
I changed my 2N over to 12 volt . I have the old coil and such but the Ford is a front mount distributor so the coil won't work on the Fergie .

I have thought about it more since my last post and I think that I will take a chance and buy the parts . I figure that the implements are worth probably about $400-500 as they are all in good shape . The tractor has got to be worth $400-500 just for parts ?

I will let you guys know what I come up with . I guess that I will be visiting this board as much as I have the N-Board soon !

By the way , I have got to order me a Zane Thang ! My 2N has an 8N hydraulic system on it so I don't need it for that one but I will for the Ferguson . Besides , I have been studying the schematics for both systems and cannot figure out how in the world Zane made a "Thang" to give you position control ! It would be worth the money just to see his ingenious device !

Thanks again guys !
Ford Man

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Ford Man

12-09-2000 21:49:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Ford Man, 12-09-2000 21:42:41  
Here is a really stupid question ....

On the tranny cover I could see the shift patern , but I also saw what looked like an "s" in the far right corner directly opposite reverse . There are several coats of paint so it is not clear . Am I missing something simple in starting this tractor ? It does have the pushbutton on the dash and would turn over by mashing the switch but no fire at all .I even bypassed the switch to eliminate that as a cause .

I also noticed that the switch has three positions . I assume that it also functions as a light switch . The lights are gone so I can't tell .

Thanks !
Ford Man

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Mike E

12-10-2000 04:10:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Ford Man, 12-09-2000 21:49:59  
On a Ferguson S means starter. Located on clutch casting foward of the steering box and under the battery you should find 2 studs mounted on a small plate. This is the starter switch, it is connected to the gearshift by a rod. The switch apparently failed and was bypassed. New switches are available, about 25-30 $. This was the Ferguson method of not being able to start the tractor in gear. I also suggest you buy the tractor. good luck Mike

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Morgan

12-11-2000 09:34:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Update on Ferguson 30 need help ( long )! in reply to Mike E, 12-10-2000 04:10:08  
Just out of curiosity, has anybody told you that you have to turn the switch right and then pull up on the gear shift lever(moving it right)and pushing the lever towards the front of the tractor. That should do it.



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