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TO30 clutch debugging

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Scott Lockert

12-18-2006 20:18:46

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Hello, I just started having problems with my clutch while trying to plow snow with my backblade. Over the course of about one driveway I was having problems both getting the tractor in and out of gear. In one instance I killed the tractor trying to stop it and trying to get it out of gear required taking the backblade off to rock it back and forth.
My question is, what are the first things I should do in order to figure out the problem before doing something stupid like taking it apart?
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Scott in Seattle Washington

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John (UK)

12-20-2006 09:13:44

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Re: TO30 clutch debugging in reply to Scott Lockert, 12-18-2006 20:18:46

Have you got the correct amount of free-play in the pedal, it should be 3/8" under the footrest on the end of the Radius Rod. Taking the load off the Hydraulics will not make any difference to this operation as the weight is not on the Pump but carried separately on a check valve.

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Joe Ferguson

12-19-2006 08:56:23

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Re: TO30 clutch debugging in reply to Scott Lockert, 12-18-2006 20:18:46

Hi Scott

First when you have this particular problem try to
lower the hydraulic to release tention on PTO shaft
which drives the hyd pump. If you depress the cluth
while the hydraulic is going up the pump will stop
and a remaining pressure will be on PTO shaft which
is mechanicaly connected to the tractor drive train and may cause shifter lockup.

When it occurs if you lower the hydraulic
and shifter become free there is no mechanical problem. This situation does not occur on tractors with live PTO.

My 2�

Joe Ferguson

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Oztim

12-22-2006 13:06:37

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Re: TO30 clutch debugging in reply to Joe Ferguson, 12-19-2006 08:56:23

Joe,

I am having a simalr problem with my Father-in-laws TO35. When the PTO is engaged the tractor does not want to stop when I depress the clutch -- it continues to try to creep forward and the transmission is hard to disengage. When the PTO is not being used the clutch releases the tranny to shift gears fine.

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Tim

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scot

12-18-2006 23:03:36

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Re: TO30 clutch debugging in reply to Scott Lockert, 12-18-2006 20:18:46

I live near Ravenna and the tractor is in the Chinook pass area near the town of Naches.

Based on my recollection everything felt normal with the exception that the clutch did not allow me to put it into gear when it was depressed. It felt like when the master cylinder went out on my truck.

I will check the bolt out you discussed, but I can only hope it is going to be that simple.

I never really have had any problems with it until just recently. I am not sure if that correlates with the cold weather or not.

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Scott

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Jerry/MT

12-19-2006 19:47:17

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Re: TO30 clutch debugging in reply to scot, 12-18-2006 23:03:36

The fact that you live in Ravenna and the tractor is in Naches tells me that the tractor does not get used too often. If this is so, your problem is probably a stuck clutch. What happens is the flywheel rusts and causes the clutch plate to stick to it. When you step on the clutch pedal, the clutch is released but does not come away from the flywheel. In cold, humid weather, condensate forms on the flywheel surface and causes the rust. One way to "quick fix" this is to geta long chain and attach it to you pick up or car, put the tractor in 3rd or 4th gear and have a friend try to tow you while you alternately step on and release the clutch pedal. Be careful when you do this. Once you get it free, you might find a way to prop the clutch pedal down so it doesn't continue to happen.
I hope this helps you.

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Jerry/MT

12-18-2006 21:22:48

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Re: TO30 clutch debugging in reply to Scott Lockert, 12-18-2006 20:18:46

Lets try and figure out what the problem is. Is this something that just happened after several months of not having any problems? Is the clutch not releasing when you step on the clutch pedal? If so, is the lock bolt on the pedal tightened down so that when you step on the pedal, the the clutch fork rod( the rod that the clutch pedal is attached to)moves? Or is the problem in the tranny i.e. getting stuck in gear. You'll have to provide more info.
p.s. I lived in the Seattle area for over 37 years. Where abouts are you located?

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