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ed barnes

11-20-2006 07:00:44




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i have a 53 to30. i just bought it. got a new starter and had it up and running for a few days. clutch was working fine. went out the next day and the clutch will not disengage the trans. i went thru the pedal adjustments a few times and still nothing. the pedal has 3/16" play, after that it is very tight! with the pedal pressed all the way down the gears still grind. does anyone have any advice? before i split this tractor in two? thanks in advance and thank god for this site!!!

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John (UK)

11-20-2006 08:34:27




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to ed barnes, 11-20-2006 07:00:44  
The free play in the pedal should be 3/8" under the footrest. It sounds as though the clutch plate has stuck to the flywheel, this can happen if it is contaminated with oil. It can also be that the clutch plate is sticking on the main drive shaft into the gearbox, this can happen if there is oil on the shaft and the dust from the Clutch Plate gets on there too. You say it is very tight, do you mean the action of the pedal is very tight?, that could be the cross-shaft sticking in the bushes through the clutch housing, to check for that you should see that the pedal is moving easily when you check the free play.It could also be that the clutch linings on the plate have worn through and some of it has broken off and got jammed between the Clutch Plate and the Clutch. You could try letting the engine run slowly in low gear and have the tractor chained to something solid, drive the tractor slowly forward with your foot pressed down on the clutch pedal and when the load comes on it MAY free the clutch, if it doesn't you will have to take the engine out to repair it properly. If it does free it, to stop it doing that again, fasten the pedal down so there is no pressure on the plate, they did this with the new tractors when the 35 was introduced because of the same problem. If you need information on how to strip it all down to repair the Clutch, email me at:- fergusontractors(at)tiscali.co.uk
and tell me what you need....John

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gerard

11-21-2006 11:27:27




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to John (UK), 11-20-2006 08:34:27  
Safety first - if you chain the tractor make sure it's to a point below the axle, or the tractor will overturn & kill you. Personally, I prefer to drive a vehicle with a stuck clutch in highish gear, with clutch depressed and brakes applied.



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John (UK)

11-21-2006 11:58:43




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to gerard, 11-21-2006 11:27:27  
Thats why I said "run the engine slowly" then it will stall when a load comes on.



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ed barnes

11-20-2006 15:50:49




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to John (UK), 11-20-2006 08:34:27  
when you say to stop if from doing this in the future to secure the pedal down you are talking about when not in use of course arent you? from going thru the archives this seems to be a fairly common problem.



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John (UK)

11-21-2006 05:39:29




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to ed barnes, 11-20-2006 15:50:49  
Yes I do mean when it is not in use and going to stand for a prolonged period of time, like over winter, the real answer is to repair the oil leak and change the plate of course.
It applies to any tractor really if they have a clutch and there is oil on the plates it will hold any moisture on the surface of the plate and if allowed to stand like that for any length of time it will form rust and it is this that holds the plate to the Clutch/flywheel.

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ed barnes

11-20-2006 08:45:58




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to John (UK), 11-20-2006 08:34:27  
thanks john! so i will have to press the tractor into 1st gear? the grinding gives me nightmares but ill try it



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phil(va)

11-20-2006 14:08:29




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to ed barnes, 11-20-2006 08:45:58  
Ed, here's an alternative to get it in gear. Before you try to start it, tow it to open space. Put it in gear. Bypass the safety switch and start it in gear. Of course it will take off, but if you are in open space in front that's ok. It has a better chance of freeing up if it's in a higher gear than first, but of course the higher the gear the scarier it gets doing this. If you can put a plow behind it, let it run forward and drop the plow in the ground and that might free it. That was Big Dean's suggestion to me when I had that problem. Oh you want to know how to stop? Cut the key off of course. Hope that helps. Be careful.

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ed barnes

11-20-2006 15:48:47




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to phil(va), 11-20-2006 14:08:29  
i might try that. thanks!



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John (UK)

11-20-2006 08:53:15




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 Re: to 30 clutch in reply to ed barnes, 11-20-2006 08:45:58  
If the engine is idling it isn't too bad.



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