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debbie wallace

10-29-2006 06:33:28




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i have recently been issued with a new replacement chassis number for my tea20 however the 17 numbers/letters will not fit on the original plate what can i do to keep it as genuine as possible?




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Bill Brox

11-02-2006 14:16:41




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-29-2006 06:33:28  
Hello Debbie.

I suggest you contact FOFH, www.fofh.co.uk and ask them about it.
You can also visit Holland Brand,>Link

In>Link such a case like yours, I would suggest that you found a serial number that fit the year, and more or less the date on the centerhousing. And then add -B to it, so it become like this: TEA 234053-B This way in a case you have "stolen" someone elses number, the -B would separate it from the original 234053, or you could use 2340531. This means the first 6 figures will be fairly correct, but the 1 would make the number a 7 digit number. They made only a bit over a half a million tractors so they never used 7 figures. No need to make some insane 17 figures in the number.

This is what I would have done.

But, if you still have the "unreadable" plate, go ahead and have it read. Some guys will be able to read it.


Bill

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debbie wallace

10-31-2006 02:41:32




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-29-2006 06:33:28  

the only number i have is the 17 letter/number chassis. i dont have a serial number with TE on it at all.



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John (UK)

10-31-2006 10:34:40




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-31-2006 02:41:32  
That number you have is not the serial number then



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debbie wallace

10-30-2006 10:59:41




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-29-2006 06:33:28  
i dont have a serial number nor an engine number as both were too corroded to recognise. the DVLA issued me with a brand new Glasgow issued chassis number as ours does not have one. it is also one of the tea's that was factory recalled so the original engine number was removed then. therefore the only number that corresponds to the tractor is this new 17 lettered & numbered chassis. it has also been given an age related plate due to the lack of archive records and original V5. i now have a new registration number and a new V5.

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cdmn

11-02-2006 12:38:56




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-30-2006 10:59:41  
It would seem to me that some kind of forensics lab could figure out the number from even a corroded plate. Using ultraviolet, electron microscopy, xrays, etc. The density of the metal is changed where the stamping was done.



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John (UK)

10-31-2006 10:39:23




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-30-2006 10:59:41  
even if it was recalled it would still have a serial number on the engine, they didn't supply engines without numbers. It could have been ground off by someone else or had a new block fitted and whoever fitted it did not transfer the number from the old block, that is the most likely explanation. What year are you thinking they had a recall to the factory I was around then and I don't ever remember a recall, it could have gone to the distributors for something but never the factory.

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debbie wallace

11-03-2006 05:56:04




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 Re: chassis number in reply to John (UK), 10-31-2006 10:39:23  
seem to have got a bit off the topic i orignially posted. the DVLA have inspecte the vehicle and i now have this chassis number which is a brand new one ie present day i have tried to teep it onto a chassis plate that should fit my tractor however it is too long for that. and as i dont have a TE ***** number i cant use the plate that should be steering column mounted.



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John (UK)

11-03-2006 06:07:00




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 11-03-2006 05:56:04  
Stamp the number into the top or side of the rear mounting flange of the gearbox like the French tractors have it. It will be no use trying to use that number if ever you need parts as it will not make sense to anyone other than the DVLA.



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debbie wallace

11-01-2006 10:10:29




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 Re: chassis number in reply to John (UK), 10-31-2006 10:39:23  
it has a brass plate fitted next to the coil with the FR date of 1958. this means it was recalled to the factory that year. it does not have any recognisable serial numbers, does have an engine number on that plate but this cannot be traced. the DVLA has inspected the vehicle for a chassis number and agrees that there isnt one. therefore i now have this number which incorporates 17 letters and numbers.i have a chassis number plate to have this engraved onto but i wanted to know wher the most suitable place would be to put the plate?

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John (UK)

11-01-2006 12:03:11




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 11-01-2006 10:10:29  
That stood for Factory Reconditioned and would relate to the engine only. A factory recall would never take place at that date (1958) for the tractor as it was 2 or more years after they stopped production of the TE20. The only serial number on the tractors is on a plate by the steering wheel next to the throttle lever, if it isn't there then there is no other place to get it from on the tractor. You can get an idea of the date the tractor was produced if you look on the left side of the Hydraulic Housing below the seat, there will be a series of numbers cast into the housing,just forward of the round inspection port, something like 12 4 3...this would relate to 12th April 1953, the tractor would then be manufactured within about 3 or 4 weeks of that date.

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Bob (Australia)

10-29-2006 12:12:41




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-29-2006 06:33:28  
17 letters and numbers?

My 1953 TEA20 is Ser No TEA 341439 - only nine letters and numbers.

I assume you are talking about the dash panel data plate?



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rod cornish

01-24-2007 23:27:04




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 Re: chassis number in reply to Bob (Australia), 10-29-2006 12:12:41  
I have just taken possesion of a Fergie TEA
with a serial number TEA 341034
does this serial number mean that my Fergie is a
1953 model similar to yours??



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debbie wallace

10-29-2006 13:05:53




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 Re: chassis number in reply to Bob (Australia), 10-29-2006 12:12:41  
yes, the correct plate my supplier of te20 parts supplied me with to fit to the dash/steering column is going to be too short to fit the new DVLA issued number.



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John (UK)

10-29-2006 15:14:05




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 Re: chassis number in reply to debbie wallace, 10-29-2006 13:05:53  
The number from DVLA will not be the serial number but I don't know what it is, it should read TE* ****** and NO more. Perhaps you should let us see the number and perhaps we can make some sense of it, they may have added the engine number to it, but that is a guess and anyway it should not appear on the tag plate.



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John (TR)

10-30-2006 05:52:17




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 Re: chassis number in reply to John (UK), 10-29-2006 15:14:05  
DVLA??? For those of us on the other side, is this the govt department of vehicles or similar??
Ours are controlled by the individual states and as far as I know the states I am familiar with do not register or "title" the tractors. Maybe they do over a certain dollar/pound amount.



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Jim W

10-30-2006 11:01:41




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 Re: chassis number in reply to John (TR), 10-30-2006 05:52:17  
To keep it genuine, don't stamp the 17 digit number on there. At the bottom it should say TE in ink, followed by the area for stamping the number, correct?
As there were other variants (TED, TEF, etc), you need to stamp in the "A" after the TE, and then the actual serial number of the tractor. If you don't know it, then maybe somehow you can find it by cross referencing from the engine serial number, found just to the right of the ignition coil.
Jim (another Wallace)

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