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daveywavey

10-08-2006 07:49:57




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A post I read advised to do a search on this website for sure seals for my 1951 TO-20. I did a search and found a set for a Ford 8N, 9N. Will these work on my TO-20? It is the only set of sure seals that I can find on this site. I dont want to order them if they will not work. Ive been to all of the local tractor shops around here and when I ask for "Sure Seals", I mine as well be asking for a set of Di-Litium crystals for my Starship Enterprise from Star Trek, they look at me like I am crazy. thanks guys!!

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ZANE

10-10-2006 15:27:14




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to daveywavey, 10-08-2006 07:49:57  
AXLE LEAK FIX WHEN NO INNER SEAL ON AXLE AS WITH OLDER 8Ns AND 9N/2N ALSO THE TO FERGUSONS


If the hub is not extremely tight so that you have to have a puller to get it off I think you can replace the seal yourself. If the hub is tight that is a good sign you might get it to stop leaking.The problem with the 48 8N is that it does not have an inner seal like the 51 and 52 do. If the hub is loose on the axle and it can't be tightened because of the spline being worn too much to allow any more tightening then you will not be able to stop the leak the conventional way unless you replace the axle and hub. I hope that is not the case.

If the axle is worn too much to allow it to be tightened then you might consider my fix for the leak and leave the hub loose a few more years. To fix the leak my unconventional way you pull the axle away from the axle housing about 6 or 8 inches and wrap the axle for about 6 inches from the outer end of the axle that is exposed with teflon tape.Wipe all the oil from the housing and then take a caulking tube full of silicone glue and pump it into the void between the axle and the housing. Keep the hub as close to the housing as you can till you get the silicone pumped in.Use the whole tube and then replace the axle into the housing and replace the bolts etc. Let the silicone cure overnight and then you can go about using the tractor. Be sure that the oil in the rearend etc is not over full as this will contribute to the axle leaking.

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davewavey

10-30-2006 17:10:42




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to ZANE, 10-10-2006 15:27:14  
This does not apply to a Ferguson Zane, you cannot pull a hub off on a Ferguson, the axle shaft and hub are one solid piece, just like a car's rear axle shaft. You have to break a shrink on collar off and then take the bearing assembly off to get to the seal. Sure seals save time and money by sealing it up without having to bust the collar off. I just installed mine and they are absolutley leak free. They work perfectly. A great investment.

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Brent, IN

10-09-2006 12:21:10




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to daveywavey, 10-08-2006 07:49:57  
Do these work on a TO30 as well?



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Irv ( Ia)

10-08-2006 17:45:56




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to daveywavey, 10-08-2006 07:49:57  
I smoothed my axles out real good on mine and so far so good. The other guys are correct, I got my seals from my Massey dealer, but I saw them at TSC after that.

Irv



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Jim Nye

10-08-2006 08:00:30




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to daveywavey, 10-08-2006 07:49:57  
Yes they will work.
Put them on my TO 20 a while back and no more leaks, make sure your drums and brake shoes are clean during reassembly.
I also saw them last night at my local Tractor Supply Store.Hope this helps.
Jim



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DennisPinOhio

10-08-2006 11:04:51




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to Jim Nye, 10-08-2006 08:00:30  
Dilithium crystals???? I never thought I"d see that on this web site!! COOL!
Anyway, your local Massey Ferguson dealer should also have SureSeals or be able to get them for you.
Let us know how you do.



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davewavey

10-08-2006 13:54:16




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to DennisPinOhio, 10-08-2006 11:04:51  
Yeah, Dilithium Crystals is all I could think of that would symbolize how bewildered some of the parts clerks at these tractor shops when I asked for sure seals. As far as cleaning my brake drums and such, I soaked them in ZEP brake cleaner, and soaked the drums and brake springs and parts as well, they are dry, and as clean as new now. My brake shoes are no longer black and slimey, they are tan colored and clean now, with alot of life left in them. So with new sure seals, I ought to be back in business again. I think I will order them from this website. I have had nothing but good service from YTmag parts orders. Thanks again guys!!

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DennisPinOhio

10-08-2006 14:57:42




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to davewavey, 10-08-2006 13:54:16  
Thought I'd better mention that I tried the SureSeal on one axle and it did not work. I suspect the axle surface was maybe too rough or the diameter wasn't quite right, so I wound up having a new seal installed.
Just a warning - you may want to check the axle first.
Good luck.



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gerard

10-09-2006 15:34:02




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 Re: Sure Seals in reply to DennisPinOhio, 10-08-2006 14:57:42  
Had the same problem - sure seal leaked as bad as before. Am about to replace OE seal, and add another sure seal as well.



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