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Looking at buying a TO 20

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daveywavey

09-24-2006 09:49:53

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I usually can be found in the Fordson forums on here talking about my 62 Super Major. My Fordson is too big for my needs and I am selling it. I have my eye on a 1951 TO 20 for $1300 in decent condition. Its up in Salina, KS, I live near Halstead. Anyways, I have a 5ft Bush hog that I use to mow our 7 acre yard, I live on 40acres. Will a TO 20 handle a 5 ft hog, 3 bottom plowing, and pulling logs? What are pros and cons of a TO 20? A couple guys on the Fordson forum tell me that after being spoiled with a Diesel Super Major, that I will be dissapointed with a 8N, 9N, or TO 20. Any thoughts? THANKS!!

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drizler

09-24-2006 23:02:29

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to daveywavey, 09-24-2006 09:49:53

I have had a 20 for about 12 years and the thing just won't die. I use it with a 7 foot blade to plow snow and a 5 foot finish mower for the yard. I have used a 5 foot brush hog in tall hay and it will do it but its slow going. With the hog or mower its pretty much balls to the wall or nearly so if its thick. I truly love that tractor but sure wish it had live hydraulics. Still, it literally runs circles around my Farmall 230. Its a very very stable tractor great for hilly nasty terrain. When I used it to haul trees I put the blade on the 3pt and either dragged or lifted the end slightly with the blade by chaining em on. I rode slowly with my foot right on the clutch in case of hitting a snag. With the blade it simply cant back flip as it sticks too far out the back. You really need loaded tires and chains for good traction in the winter. I put a decent aftermarket seat on after the pan seat began tearing up my sciatic nerve, talk about a PITA.

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howard deats

09-24-2006 19:48:31

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to daveywavey, 09-24-2006 09:49:53

nothing wrong with the to20 it can pull logs and mow with a 5FT. deck but a 3 bottom plow is pushing it. look for a to30 same size body & tires but more hp.i have two 20's and one 30 fine tractors

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John (TR)

09-24-2006 19:26:11

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to daveywavey, 09-24-2006 09:49:53

I have an 8n, 2n, and a TO 20. I run a 6 ft finish mower and the old Fergy has a little more power than my newely rebuilt 8n. I'm new to the Fergy board but many an N runs a 5' bush hog and some run 6'. 5' seems to be the norm with guys talkng of hoggin in 3rd gear at times. I also hear a few talk about pulling logs with thier N's.
I would expect the 20 to be ok with a 5' bush hog. The 35 is no longer so other than power it would not be any less suseptable to pulling over. You should pull from beneath the rear axe anyway to lessen the chance of flip over.

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davewavey

09-24-2006 16:26:13

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to daveywavey, 09-24-2006 09:49:53

Thanks guys!, alot of my back lot is dense thick grass that can be as tall as 4-5foot tall. What I meant by too big is manueverability. It is tough to weave in and out of trees and fences with an "elephant" as you put it..lol. I need something smaller, but still usable. Here is the kicker guys, my MAX spending amout is $2000. Around here 35's go for 4-5K.... I got my Major for 1500, I like it but I am REALLY sick of its poor driveablilty around things. I am not seeking out a new tractor because i "want" to, but because I "need" to. I might still try out the TO 20, i have a 2 bottom plow to use, I really, really like the look and size of the 8N/TO 20 tractors. The TO 20 has a bit more power I hear. Ill keeplooking though, maybe an old massey harris or a farmall. Thanks guys!!

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Joe Ferguson

09-24-2006 13:10:11

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to daveywavey, 09-24-2006 09:49:53

If you worked the Major for few years you will find
that Major = elephant TO-20 = mouse.

It depends what you mean by "too big"...
if it is too heavy you may remove liquid ballast
in rear tires..remove wheel weights if any.

A real 3 bottom plow capable is a MF-65 or 165
4 bottom on soft terrain. TO-20 is 2 bottom plow capable..5 ft bush hog will be too mutch in dense hay or grass..for pulling logs TO-20 may be dangerous because of its short wheelbase it will have tentency to flipover if logs hits an obstacle. I wd keep the Major and buy the To-20 for little jobs around. I have 2 tractors here and find it handy.

Just my humble 2� opinion

Joe Ferguson

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mark from the fort

09-24-2006 12:29:13

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to daveywavey, 09-24-2006 09:49:53

A 20 is pretty much the same a 9n----I would strongly recommend looking a little more for a 35. With all the work you mentioned, a 35 wouldn't miss a lick--I think a 20 might dissapoint. Mark

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Matt in Ks

09-26-2006 02:16:06

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to mark from the fort, 09-24-2006 12:29:13

I have had my TO-20 for a few years now and love it to death. I use it for everything, hogging, plowing, setting post with the digger, you name it. I have friends that have newer tractors that won"t start in the winter and they keep them in barns. The TO sits outside all year long and when its time to start she fires right up. I have had no major problems with her other than the basic minor "glitches".

I say buy the tractor and enjoy it. Where else can you find a tractor that is 50 years old or older and still works like the day it rolled off the assembly line.

Just my 2 cents.

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daveywavey

09-27-2006 10:03:17

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Re: Looking at buying a TO 20 in reply to Matt in Ks, 09-26-2006 02:16:06

Thanks Matt, I will be on my way up to Salina hopefully this weekend, as I have decided to go ahead and purchase that TO 20. The dealer is taking it in on a trade from someone else that wanted a bigger tractor. The TO 20 just barely hit the lot for sale, I called him and said "Ill Take it" LOL. I recently had to split my Fordson in half to do some work and man was it a chore, after seeing pictures of someone splitting an 8N, I said to my self, thats a cake walk compared to the beast of a tractor I have!! LOL
So even if this TO 20 needs some TLC, it will be smooth sailing compared to my Fordson. Thanks guys for the input, I will soon be a proud Ferguson owner.

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