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Would be new to me TO-35

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CJM

09-18-2006 04:52:57




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I posted this yesterday, but it never showed up on the board, so here it is again. I am in the process of/considering buying what I believe is a 1955 TO-35. The owner agreed to hold it while I arrange my finances. So I thought I'd post about it here to see the reaction.

It has almost new rear tires and newer fronts. The steering is tight with only a little play at the the rod end by the steering box on the left side. The tin is pretty straight but the roll pan under the front grill is rusted through as is the 'tool box' in the left fender. It looks to have benn sandblasted and repainted over the rust holes (Massey red/grey). I drove it a bit and it is quiet in all gears in both ranges. The clutch engages pretty far up in the travel range, but seems to hold well. The PTO shaft isn't loose or leaking. There were no obvious welds or leaks. It has a new leveling box for the three point and stabilizers for the arms. It has new gauges with the old (functioning) tractormeter. The brakes work and I see no oil leaks in their vicinity, but it seemed to take a lot of pressure to stop.

Now for the questionable parts. The motor started and ran fine w/no bottom end noise, but there was a lot of what I assume is valvetrain noise. He has never adjusted the valves, so it might well be that.

The radiator doesn't leak, but I suspect it may tend to overheat because the thermostat has been removed. Water is visiblly moving when viewed through the cap.

The battery and coil have been changed over to 12V, but it still has the 6V generator and I assume voltage regulator. Other than not charging the battery, will that setup hurt anything?

Included in the deal is a box blade and brush hog from tractor supply that are about 8 years old. The gearbox on the BH has no slop. Also included is a posthole digger w/9" auger.

All of this for $4,000. Deal or no deal?

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wesfrommo

09-22-2006 18:26:51




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 04:52:57  
Where are you located at? I"ve got a 1964 massey ferguson fe35 deluxe(no power steering)perkins diesel runs good starts VERY EASY! Real good oil pressure.Going to need back tires soon.Just bought a skid steer so something got to go.Phone # 636-629-6774 Wes.



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CJM

09-22-2006 18:57:21




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to wesfrommo, 09-22-2006 18:26:51  
I am in Fort Worth, Texas.



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Justin-PA

09-19-2006 12:21:02




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 04:52:57  
A 1955 TO35 will not have a SN that begins with SGM or SGF. There was no official "Deluxe" model, only options that included 2-stage clutch, etc. I know b/c I have a 1955 TO35 with 2-stage clutch and live PTO. Its a great little tractor, was in very good condition when I bought it (the only issue was draft control was not working, and I fixed that easliy). I paid $3200 for that plus chains and a 6" blade. I thought that was a little steep, but it was in good condition.

$4000 sounds a little high for what you"ve described, even with the implements. Will the guy consider offers? In my area all that would probably go for about $3000.

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John (TR)

09-19-2006 07:28:10




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to Jim in OH, 09-18-2006 09:42:49  
I was looking for those #'s on my 35 and did not locate them either way, I found in the archives that those numbers were introduced like in 57 or 58 ie:SGF



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CJM

09-18-2006 10:39:07




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to Jim in OH, 09-18-2006 09:42:49  
I didn't know the differences between a Deluxe and a standard TO-35. I'll have to check the SN again, but it does have a two-stage clutch.



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Dan S (NY)

09-18-2006 09:30:17




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 04:52:57  
Are you sure its a 6 volt generator? At some point they switched over to a negative ground 12 volt generator and voltage regulator. Just a thought, but the electrical may be correct.

Dan



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John (TR)

09-18-2006 06:16:48




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 04:52:57  
Price is always a challenge. My previous post was 1800 for a tractor that needs a lot of work. So for a better tractor I've seen 35's sell on ebay around 3-35 and they looked nice. The box blade if 6' was 500 new minimum and more if its a Woods, same for the mower. Sounds like you are not too far off. Lot of folks pulled the thermostats, may not mean anything. Sounds like you will spend some time and $$ getting the electrical straitened out. I have a to 20 thats noisey as well and I have not looked at it, nothing in particular just lots of possible valve train noise. Maybe someone will sign in and tell us about valve noise.

I've had seveal posts disappear myself. I thought it was me and then it happened again this weekend. Post was titled "reccommended manual? " or something like that.

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CJM

09-18-2006 11:00:50




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to John (TR), 09-18-2006 06:16:48  
Maybe I should keep looking. I don't have to have a tractor immediately and the general feedback here seems to be this is too much for this particular tractor.

There is an MF-135 diesel in the paper with a box blade and brush hog for $4500...in the next county though...



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CJM

09-19-2006 07:15:14




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 11:00:50  
I caleld on the MF-135 and that price is the tractor alone, no implements.



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jmixigo

09-18-2006 05:09:26




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 04:52:57  
Depends on where you are. Around here in East Central Alabama near the GA line That's a $2500.00 deal. $1800-cheap $2700-"spring time priced". $4000.00-they'd drive away chuckling and head shaking.
Your area may be different than here.



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CJM

09-18-2006 07:42:50




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to jmixigo, 09-18-2006 05:09:26  
Small tractors like this go for a premium here. An 8N that needs tires and steering work would go for $1800 or more if it ran well (I see them in about similar condition to this TO-35 for $2500-$2800 or more). I looked at an Oliver 550 that leaked from the PTO badly, was not complete, needed a rim repaired/replaced and new rear tires, and paint and the guy was asking $2200 for it.

I think the implements around here would bring $1000 minimum.

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Matt in the Thumb

09-19-2006 09:29:47




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 07:42:50  
An Oliver 550 is in a different league if you ask me. Most I see around here go for $4000 minimum. I think $3500 would be an OK price for the package. Not a great deal, but not getting ripped off either.



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CJM

09-19-2006 07:17:42




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-18-2006 07:42:50  
As a point of reference, there is an 8N in the paper today with a brush hog for $2995 (might go for $2500). So these little tractors are still commanding high prices around here.



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CJM

09-21-2006 18:37:53




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 Re: Would be new to me TO-35 in reply to CJM, 09-19-2006 07:17:42  
I guess it wasn't too bad of a deal, because someone picked it up today and it wasn't me!



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