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TO30 HDY lift falls to ground

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tonye thornton

09-11-2006 10:23:21




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a few weeks back I talked to some of you guys about my lift on to30 massey after it gets warm up are after using the lift for about 45min to one hour it wont lift back up with disk on and after using i checked inside the panel on r/h side were the dip sticks is with light and mirrow i could not see any oil driping from the top are
are under the lift cover but the oil was realy swilling around over the pump is that a sign the relieve vaule is bad if so any tricks in replacing it

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John (UK)

09-11-2006 10:38:12




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 Re: TO30 HDY lift falls to ground in reply to tonye thornton, 09-11-2006 10:23:21  
I have already replied to your earlier posting on here. I have put a copy of it below:-

Forget the relief valve, everyone thinks about the relief valve and blames that...it may leak but it wont cause anything other than the lower links to leak down faster than usual. The Relief Valve is to the rear of the Pump and if as you say the leak is over the Pump then it isn't the the Relief Valve. Drop the level of the oil so you can see the Pump more easily and you may find the leak that way. It will be easier to drain some oil through the drain for the rear axle which is under the diff, being smaller you can control the flow more easily. as long as there is about 2"/3" in the Pump chamber it will work. Don't drop the Pump until you find the leak. If you email me at: fergusontractors(at)tiscali.co.uk
and I will send more info to you about looking for leaks, but do try dropping the oil first and then tell me at the same time what you find and I may be able to tell you more of what it is from the information you give me. When you say it wont lift when it gets hot is this with an implement on the linkage, do you have the correct grade of oil in there NOT hydraulic oil. Let me know what you find by email plz.....John

PS If you didn't get the reply you may not have put the tick in the box (Email Notification) so it wouldn't let you know there was a reply.

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tonye thornton

09-11-2006 10:49:28




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 Re: TO30 HDY lift falls to ground in reply to John (UK), 09-11-2006 10:38:12  
yes john I had disk on the lift and in up postion but it just would not pick up and the oil was heavy gear oil 90 wt and i also tried that laus oil may have mist spelled iwill do more checking like you say



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John (UK)

09-11-2006 11:38:06




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 Re: TO30 HDY lift falls to ground in reply to tonye thornton, 09-11-2006 10:49:28  
You say Heavy Gear Oil 90WT, this is the wrong grade and far too heavy for hydraulics. It should be GL1-90W which is about as thick as engine oil you can also use 15W-30 Multi-grade. I know people think of the gearbox and the Differential as needing the oil but so do the Hydraulics and GL1-90W is a compromise between very thick and very thin that is normally used in Hydraulics. It needs to be drained when warm so you will get as much as possible out of the system or it will forever cause problems with the Control Valve. Incidentally if you have put this thick oil in the Hydraulics, the pressure will be higher as the oil will not flow as easily through any leaks, but it will cause you endless trouble with the Hydraulics.

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