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mark from the f

08-27-2006 12:07:15




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I recently had my genny rebuild--when I check the voltage at the battery with the tractor running, my volt meter (digital) jumps all over the place showing all sorts of high and low readings and never stopping for a reading.--The tractor had a genny cut out on it and I put a VR on instead. I did NOT polarize the genny--would that lead to scrambled readings? When I go to my other fergy (12v) I can put the tester on while running and get a quick 12.?? reading. The problem tractor is a 6volt by the way. Sound like a polarization issue? I guess I want to see if new rebuild is doing its job. Could it be a VR issue instead? Thanks Mark

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RP2

08-27-2006 14:51:17




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 Re: crazy voltage reading in reply to mark from the fort, 08-27-2006 12:07:15  
On my TO-20 I can use the digital meter on the generator side of the motor but not on the ignition side. I mean it only works if the meter is physically on the opposite side of the engine from the ignition.



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Gerald J.

08-27-2006 13:45:15




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 Re: crazy voltage reading in reply to mark from the fort, 08-27-2006 12:07:15  
If the generator is building up with the wrong polarity it could cause those wildly fluctuating readings. It then acts like its shorted when the cutout in the voltage regulator tries to close. POLARIZE IT FIRST with the engine not running and it may go back to working right. Otherwise you could have toasted the voltage regulator from those short circuit effects.

Badly worn brushes or low commutator bars can lead to lots of voltage variations from the generator also.

Gerald J.

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Bob

08-27-2006 12:29:38




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 Re: crazy voltage reading in reply to mark from the fort, 08-27-2006 12:07:15  
The answer is simple... the digital meter you are using is not sufficiently shielded, or simply cannot filter out the electrical noise generated by the ignition and charging systems on the old tractor. One source of the interference is the solid-core (non-suppression) spark plug wires required by the 6-Volt system.

This is a common problem, and this information has been posted often, before, on these boards.

There are analog meters available for $20.00 or less that are plenty accurate for use on these machines, and, having no "solid state" electronic components, they are not adversely affected by the electrical noise. Or try a different digital meter.

A higher $$$$ one MAY function better in the "electrically noisy" evironment created by the tractor's electrical equipment.

As to your other tractor, the "12-Volt" one, the battery voltage, if the charging system is functioning, should be in the 14.5 to 15.5 Volt range.

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mark from the fort

08-27-2006 13:19:42




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 Re: crazy voltage reading in reply to Bob, 08-27-2006 12:29:38  
Thanks, makes perfect sense. Yes, I do get more like 14.88 with 12v running--I was thinking of the reading with tractor off. Just out of curiosity, does a 6 v have make more electrical noise than a 12v? I can get a solid reading from the 12v when running, just not the ol' 6 er.
Thanks, learned something else..... ....I'm getting close to dangerous. Ha Ha God Bless, Mark



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Bob

08-27-2006 20:03:23




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 Re: crazy voltage reading in reply to mark from the fort, 08-27-2006 13:19:42  
As I mentioned in the other post, if the 6-volt unit has solid-core wires, and the 12-Volt unit has ignition noise suppression wires, that COULD account for the difference, otherwise, WHO KNOWS... I work on a lot of this old stuff, and some units seem to screw up a digital meter more than others. I have gotten to the point I just use a cheapy analog meter, which is PLENTY accurate, and not affected by the elctrical noise. (I do cehck the analog against the higher-quality digital unit, from time to time.)

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