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swinging drawbar pin and uses.

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mike2

06-25-2006 07:04:18




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Well I finally got my swinging drawbar kit installed. I ended up removing the screw-in studs and using bolts for the bottom plate. Now, what do you guys use for pins to keep the bar from swinging? I can't find anything that will work from the local tractor supply store.

Also, The reason I got the bar was to pull a utility trailer and not have the up and down movement. But what good is it to put the drawbar off to the left or right side and why are there so many different positions the bar can go (as in to the left or right)? Tha bar also adjusts in and out what is this adjustment for?

Now, when I do use my trailer, I would assume I pin the draw bar straight out. Is this right or should I let the draw bar unpinned to freely move side-to side?

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phil(va)

06-25-2006 12:03:35




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 Re: swinging drawbar pin and uses. in reply to mike2, 06-25-2006 07:04:18  
I would say that pinned straight out means you can't turn as sharp, but also the trailer isn't as likely to run over something on the inside of the turn as it would if you left the drawbar to swing freely. Depends on what you are doing. If you are hauling wood from a cut-over, you don't care what you run over, but if you are in your yard, you do....



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mike2

06-25-2006 10:01:34




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 Re: swinging drawbar pin and uses. in reply to mike2, 06-25-2006 07:04:18  
Thanks, the draw bar is the one in the picture.



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Jim in OH

06-25-2006 09:22:12




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 Re: swinging drawbar pin and uses. in reply to mike2, 06-25-2006 07:04:18  
Mike2... From some previous discussion back on 6/13, I am assuming you have this drawbar:

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therefore there are no drawbar stays to the top link...

"Now, what do you guys use for pins to keep the bar from swinging? I can't find anything that will work from the local tractor supply store."

I would just use some bolts. YOu can just drop them through or put nuts on them. High strength (grade 8) will resist bending, but any will work.

"Also, The reason I got the bar was to pull a utility trailer and not have the up and down movement. But what good is it to put the drawbar off to the left or right side and why are there so many different positions the bar can go (as in to the left or right)?"

Left and right adjustment has very little use for a trailer unless, as John says, you have a need to offset the trailer to get closer (or farther) from something. The swinging feature (without the pins) is principally used for heavy pulling of implements in the field. The swinging makes turning easier.

"Tha bar also adjusts in and out what is this adjustment for?"

In and out is for preference and weight distribution. Also, "in" may not provide enough clearance for turning.

"Now, when I do use my trailer, I would assume I pin the draw bar straight out. Is this right"

Yes

" or should I let the draw bar unpinned to freely move side-to side?"

No

Jim

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cdmn

06-26-2006 17:03:05




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 Re: swinging drawbar pin and uses. in reply to Jim in OH, 06-25-2006 09:22:12  
In and out positions are related to pto hook-ups.
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Also, the drawbar might be allowed to swing when you back up to an implement. You can then swing it over to allow the drawpin to fall through. You don't have to be so precise in backing up. After you start to pull ahead, put the pins back in to prevent side sway.



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John (UK)

06-25-2006 07:22:23




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 Re: swinging drawbar pin and uses. in reply to mike2, 06-25-2006 07:04:18  
Is it a proprietary drawbar or a home made one, there are hardened steel pins for most draw bars, if you use soft ones they will bend and jam in the holes. The drawbar swings from side to side to allow a trailed implement to be moved over to that side so that it will get into the side of a field or under trees where the tractor can't go.
In and out adjustment is so that you are able to turn easily with trailed implements otherwise drawbar can catch the wheel but if you have a proper trailer you cant do this or it will be lifting the nose of the tractor off the floor, so you move the drawbar in towards the tractor to make it stable, it alters the leverage from the trailer drawbar. The multitude of adjustments are there so that you can set the drawbar to tow your trailer or whatever at the correct angle, which should be straight and level. You always fix your drawbar when towing, in whatever position is right for the job you are doing, you don't leave it to swing loose.
Did you use the drawbar stays that attach to the top link connection on the original drawbar to stop it moving up and down or did you just put the drawbar into the lower links of the tractor and try to hold it on the hydraulics, if that drawbar is set up as it should be it will work ok with light trailers and drag implements but if the trailer has a heavy nose weight then it does need the type of drawbar you have now to be safe.

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