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jnathyb

06-13-2006 16:45:09




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i need to know any and everything about this tractor ,to 30 1952 and the tractor has a stuck clutch ,and it is a 5 speed i think but can only get it in 1,2,3and 4,.any tricks to unstuck this clutch,thanks




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phil(va)

06-14-2006 09:36:32




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 Re: to 30 in reply to jnathyb, 06-13-2006 16:45:09  
If you can start it in gear, sometimes you can depress the clutch and brakes at same time and get it to free up, or put a plow behind it, get it moving in highest gear you can stomach (it can be scary) and drop the plow in the ground while depressing the clutch and that might free it. Otherwise, probably have to split tractor.



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jnathyb

06-14-2006 12:59:39




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 Re: to 30 in reply to phil(va), 06-14-2006 09:36:32  
the clutch pedal moves but very hard and makes no diff. would it be real stupid to fire it up on a jack then drop it? thanks joe



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phil(va)

06-15-2006 06:20:10




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 Re: to 30 in reply to jnathyb, 06-14-2006 12:59:39  
It might be ok to try that if you have a wide open field that is level. How are the brakes? Be ready to cut the ignition off quickly if it scares you when it takes off. Ideally, you want to use the highest gear possible, but I have found that fourth gear is real scary in that situation.



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J. Hart

06-13-2006 17:50:43




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 It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to jnathyb, 06-13-2006 16:45:09  
Unless somebody has done some pretty interesting work to your TO-30, it ain't a 5 speed, it is a 4 speed with 1 reverse gear. What you think is a "5" is actually an "S" and should be located directly above the reverse gear.

The T0-30's had this as a safety feature to prevent the tractor from being started in gear. Basically you turn the ignition switch to "On" or "Run" and then push the gear shift lever to "S" to crank it over. Probably, at some point, the switch went out and somebody replaced yours with a different type of switch.

As for your clutch, I don't know. Do you think that the clutch is stuck cause it won't go into "5th" gear or is there some other reason?

Good luck and keep on tractoring.

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Bruc

06-13-2006 21:55:33




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to J. Hart, 06-13-2006 17:50:43  
Glad to know I ain"t the only one who got a "5" speed...
My post is the bottom of page two...
"Hup and Howard gears"
One of the days soon the 9N will be fixed and then I can start on the TO-20...
Bruce



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J. Hart

06-13-2006 22:31:23




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to Bruc, 06-13-2006 21:55:33  
I stand corrected. I suppose it could be "Hup and Howard gears" and I must admit, I don't know anything about them. I'd be interested to know which it was, "Hup and Howard gears" or mistaking the "S" for a "5".

Keep on tractoring.



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bruc

06-14-2006 10:18:55




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to J. Hart, 06-13-2006 22:31:23  
The Hup auxillery transmission is similiar to a Sherman trans. This one in particular has a high range, a low range and direct drive. The Howard gear reducer hooks into the rear axle and slows the tractor speed while keeping the PTO up to speed when using a tiller. With all these fancy levers, I can use 24 gears forward and 6 reverse.
The top speed with the Hup in high range is about 25 MPH. Slow speed at 1,000 RPM should be around .37 MPH...
All this with a Howard rotovator tiller set me back $1800...Even came with a bad starter and a messed up ring gear.
I have blown the budget on repairing a 9N and so the TO-20 is waiting in the yard...

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jnathyb

06-14-2006 01:15:04




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to J. Hart, 06-13-2006 22:31:23  
when i first looked at it i thought it looked like a S ,but couldnt figure why.,,the clutch pedal is barely moveable and has no effect. i dont know how long it has set but i have never seen anything so rusty.any ideas on the clutch? thanks ,,joe



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John (UK)

06-14-2006 13:22:05




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to jnathyb, 06-14-2006 01:15:04  
If the clutch pedal is hard to press then the engine will have to come out and the clutch cross-shaft be taken out and cleaned up....it is sticking in the bushes through the clutch housing. You can check the clutch while it is apart too. If you need the information to take the engine out email me at:-
fergusontractors(at)tiscali.co.uk
tell me again what you need though or I will have to search for this posting.

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J. Hart

06-14-2006 01:23:36




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to jnathyb, 06-14-2006 01:15:04  
I don't know about the clutch. Does it start? Can you check it that way? I don't know, perhaps more tractor-experienced fellas on here can help out.

Keep on tractoring.



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jnathyb

06-25-2006 03:25:47




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 Re: It's not a 5 speed....... in reply to J. Hart, 06-14-2006 01:23:36  
we got the tractor split in half, and the bushing were seezed up,we cleaned them but it is still a lil stiff,is that ok?not back together yet. Anything we should do while it is apart. we are going to replace the ring gear,how do you do this and replace it?thanks ,joe



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