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TO-20 Oil Problem

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Clint1

06-06-2006 12:21:48




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I mowed grass last week for about three hours and afterwards I went to check the engine oil and found that the dipstick was dry, so after adding 4 quarts that took it back to the level it was at before I started mowing about one fourth of the way up the safe level. I still have not determined where 4 quarts of oil got off to but I was thinking possibly blow by from the blow by tube, I rebuilt the entire engine two years ago so I would have to assume that there is no blockage in the engine but is there an air inlet somewhere on the intake manifold that could be clogged. Any and all help would be appreciated.
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Clint

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Jerry/MT

06-06-2006 20:50:01




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 Re: TO-20 Oil Problem in reply to Clint1, 06-06-2006 12:21:48  
Jim gave you an excellent run down of the possibilites. You didn't mention any of your observations while operating other than a dry dipstick after three hours of operation.
Did you notice low oil pressure, excessive bluish smoke, missfire due to oil fouling, external leakage, "wet" exhaust pipeetc. Are you sure you didn't "short stick" the oil dipstick when you checked it? Four quarts of oil had to go some where and most of the places would leave a visual clue. The crank case is just vented to the atmosphere. There is no air inlet. The increase in crankcase temperature and blowby are all that cause any vapors to be vented. Even if it were plugged, it wouldn't allow 4 quarts of oil to get out without notice.

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Jim in OH

06-06-2006 13:22:00




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 Re: TO-20 Oil Problem in reply to Clint1, 06-06-2006 12:21:48  
It is pretty hard to pinpoint your problem without checking a lot of things, so here is a rambling (thinking "outloud") dissertation that might help. If in fact you did "use" a gallon of oil in three hours, there should be good indications of where it went. If you were burning it, it would be smoking like crazy. (consider that a gallon of oil with say using 6 or 8 gallons of gas is far "richer" mixture than even the oldest chainsaws and outboard motors... lots of smoke!) If it smokes, it could be a hole in a piston, broken rings, even unseated rings, etc. Check you spark plugs to be sure (fouling), but if you haven't seen smoke, this is probably not the case. Blowby could be the cause, but again, that much oil coming out the crankcase breather will make a BIG mess!... Other leaks on the engine will also make a big mess with this much leakage and be a clue as to the problem. What is left, is possible leakage inside the bell housing. While normally there would be evidence at the little drain (sometimes with a cotter pin) on the under side of the bell, this may be plugged and several quarts of oil could be lurking therein. This may also be evident by an oil-wet starter and eventually a sticky and/or slipping clutch. IF that is the case, it probably got there by a bad rear engine seal or a leak in the camshaft plug in the block (behind the flywheel). Finally, one last (low probabilty) possiblility: a specific head gasket failure could allow pressurized oil to seep into the coolant system. This would be evident by a well overfilled (a gallon in three hours?) radiator displacing the coolant and eventually oil. HOpe this helps.. Jim

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