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removing engine tag

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mark from the f

04-30-2006 21:41:29




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Anyone have any tips on removing engine tag? (rivots) -Getting ready to strip for painting and wanted to remove tag for protective purposes.
Immediate thought was to dent with a punch, drill appropriate hole, and try easy-out sort of tool.
Thanks in advance. Mark




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Steve (DE)

05-01-2006 20:43:30




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 Re: removing engine tag in reply to mark from the fort, 04-30-2006 21:41:29  
I just used a small flat edged cold chisel and tapped the rivet head carefully sideways. Mostly the rivets just pulled (and bent) out. Watch out for buggering the tag. Actually once the rivet head is up a bit, a vise-grip will turn it out. You may need to get new rivets, but I straightened mine and reused them.



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T

05-01-2006 18:09:06




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 Re: removing engine tag in reply to mark from the fort, 04-30-2006 21:41:29  
Why remove it? Mask it and cut with exacto knife is what I did on mine. Unless you are doing a complete rebuild with all the exact OEM replacement parts that should do well.



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JIm in OH

05-01-2006 19:24:35




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 Re: removing engine tag in reply to T, 05-01-2006 18:09:06  
The reason I am removing it is because the block is going to the shop to be "boiled out". The paint on the tag will not survive (or any tape over it) and maybe not even the aluminum tag. Jim in OH



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Jeff-oh

05-01-2006 11:53:14




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 Re: removing engine tag in reply to mark from the fort, 04-30-2006 21:41:29  
How about grinding/drilling the the tops off until the tag is remoced, then grinding the posts flush with the enging and then re-drilling new holes into the block, off-setting the old holes by a 1/4" to 1/2" or so?


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Jim in OH

05-01-2006 13:25:20




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 Re: removing engine tag in reply to Jeff-oh, 05-01-2006 11:53:14  
Grinding off the heads is what I described. There is a raised pad on the block where the tag goes. If you just wanted to attach the tag, you could do as you say, but it wouldn't look right. It would be offset on the pad. Another way would be to put fake rivets in then glue the tag to the block but I'd be afraid it would come loose and be lost. The best way, I think, is to still try to put the holes back where they were. This can easily be done by using a mag-base drill press or in a mill both of which the machinist will have. You can buy the rivets, but not the tag. Jim

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Jim in OH

05-01-2006 08:21:07




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 Re: removing engine tag in reply to mark from the fort, 04-30-2006 21:41:29  
Mark, These pins are of a very coarse self threading (about 1/2 turn full depth) drive-in type that are difficult to remove from the top. I used a dremel and carefully ground out the centers (same as drilling) and got the tags off. Getting the pins out is another matter. The pins seem to be about as hard as the block, so staying centered during drilling has been a problem. I am about ready to let the machinist do it when I take the block to be cleaned and checked. Some of the holes were nearly drilled through (can feel the dimple inside the block) and others are not. If yours are completely through, I'd suggest punching them out from the back. This was very successful (all 4) with the ID tag on the steering post. I will probably be able to drive out 2 of the 4 on the engine tag when I get a small enough punch, but not all of them. I know this was not particularly helpful... just to let you know the problem is mutual... Jim

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