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which pivot pin and bushing for TO35?

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Ray A. Idaho

02-12-2006 21:11:10




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The front pivot pin is worn on my TO35, and the back hole on the front axle support is wowed out about 1/4 in. top to bottom. When I checked the bushings I found one of them cracked and removed both of them. My question now is, How do I determine which pivot pin and bushing I have? There are 2 pivot pins listed in the parts manual, and also there 2 bushings listed one flanged and 2 not flanged. My axle had 2 flanged bushings in it pushed in from opposite sides, but they only show 1 flanged bushing in the parts manual. Each of the bushings are .815" wide with a .132 wide flange, and it looks like there is about a 1/8"-3/16" gape between them. I think I will turn out a sleeve to repair the back hole on the axle support, that should help take out a lot of slop in the axle along with the new pin and bushing. (If I can find out which ones to use) Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Jack in NB

02-13-2006 04:03:29




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 Re: which pivot pin and bushing for TO35? in reply to Ray A. Idaho, 02-12-2006 21:11:10  
Hello Ray -

The two bushings sounds like a field repair. (They left the factory with one bushing.) We always put two in to lengthen the time before replacement, on the theory that it will take twice as long to wear the two bearing surfaces as having only one.

Consider that this bearing carries the entire load of the front of the tractor, and front end loader if fitted - and with no lubrication. It is one of the very few weak points in the design of this tractor in my opinion.

We have repaired the axle and housing by building up with brazing and grinding with a die grinder. (Handy tool, that one - a king-sized Dremel.) It doesn't have to be a machined fit - just built up so it supports the bushings from flopping, distorting, and falling out, or to allow the pin to slide in.

The wear on the back sounds like the pivot pin retaining bolt was missing, allowing the pin to rotate with the axle. That bolt makes sure the pivot pin and axle bushings take the wear, and they are cheap to replace.

The two different pin numbers are interchangeable. The center hole in the earlier 183 221 M1 is machined to take a starting crank, the later 193 746 M1 won't take a crank. The bush - number 182 850 M1 - is flanged, and fitted to all tractors after s/n 4860.

Hope this helps.

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Ray A. Idaho

02-13-2006 12:47:18




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 Re: which pivot pin and bushing for TO35? in reply to Jack in NB, 02-13-2006 04:03:29  
Thanks for the info. I just ordered the bushings and pin from Davis Tractor parts. I was thinking of brazing and grinding the housing, but then I looked at one on the bushing halves that is still in pretty good condition, and think I will grind out the housing and insert the bushing in there and braze it in place. It should last a lot longer than the brass will. I also used brass to build up the gearshift cup and ball on the gearshift. then turned them to size on the lathe. I swapped cups between the 2 speed and gearshift so one has a steel ball in a brass cup, and the other had a brass ball in the steel cup. Seems to work well, and lots less expensive too.(besides it gave me more play time on the lathe)

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John (UK)

02-15-2006 10:52:54




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 Re: which pivot pin and bushing for TO35? in reply to Ray A. Idaho, 02-13-2006 12:47:18  
The early axle had a single bush which was quite thin, they changed the centre axle type and fitted two bushes, each with a flange on one end. You insert one bush from each side of the axle, they are harder than the thinner type and do last longer. The bush is part number 182850M1 or Sparex part # S40107 and you need 2 per axle. The pin was also changed from the early type part # 825002M1 or Sparex 60049

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Jack in NB.

02-15-2006 03:05:39




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 Re: which pivot pin and bushing for TO35? in reply to Ray A. Idaho, 02-13-2006 12:47:18  
Good stuff, Ray.

You might want to consider adding 1/8" to the bottom of the gear shift lever (1-2-3-R, not high - low) while you're at it.

A weakness in those units was locking in low or reverse, caused by that lever popping out of the shifting blocks down inside. You can't shift until you go inside through the filler hole and correct it.

The lever can move up a bit in operation, and coupled with a bit of wear jumps out at the bottom end, usually on an agressive shifting movement.

The extra length seems to fix it. I've used both steel and braze welding - both seem to work.

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