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08-31-2000 17:07:28

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HI. I AM STILL CHECKING OUT MY TO-30 AND I HAVE A FEW MORE STUPID QUESTIONS. THE BIGGEST ONE IS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THE TRACTOR COUGHS A COUPLE TIMES AND BLOWS A PUFF OF WHITE SMOKE OUT THE TAIL PIPE AND A SMALL PUFF OUT WHERE THE EXHAUST PIPE JOINS THE MANIFOLD. THE TRACTOR RUNS FINE OTHERWISE AND DOES NOT SMOKE. IT CAN HAPPEN JUST AFTER STARTING OR AFTER RUNNING FOR A WHILE, ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS? STUPID QUESTION NUMBER TWO: THE OPERATORS MANUAL SAYS WHEN DRAINING THE RADIATOR BE SURE TO LOOSEN BOTH DRAINCOCKS, WELL I CAN ONLY FIND ONE. IF YOU ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE TRACTOR LOOKING AT THE RADIATOR IT IS ON THE RIGHT CENTER OF THE BOTTOM OF THE RADIATOR. WHERE IS THE OTHER ONE? MY OTHER QUESTION IS JUST LOOKING FOR OPINIONS ON THE BEST WAY TO LOOSEN STUCK BOLTS. ALL I HAVE NOW IS SOME WD-40 I SPRAY ON AND TAP A COUPLE TIMES AND TRY AGAIN LATER, I KNOW THERE IS BETTER STUFF AND I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT Y'ALL HAVE FOUND TO WORK BEST. I HAVE AN IMPACT WRENCH LAYING AROUND I HAVE NEVER USED BUT I NEED TO GET A REGULATOR FOR MY COMPRESSOR, NOT TO MENTION IT SEEMS A LOT OF THE BOLTS ON THESE TRACTORS WOULD BE HARD TO GET TO WITH AN IMPACT WRENCH. THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR THE INPUT. VA.

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Chuck (CA)

09-01-2000 20:19:25

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Re: more stupid questions in reply to VA, 08-31-2000 17:07:28

Hi VA,
Dave is right about the heat, but if that's not an option, I was told about a penetrant called PB Blaster. (Do not confuse this with PT Cruiser, which is very expensive and would probably not release a frozen bolt anyway.)
I haven't tried it myself, but is supposed to be fantastic. If you try it, report back and let us know how it works.
Also, the Marvel Mystery Oil is good stuff too, and don't be surprised if you see a lot of smoke coming out the exhaust while it's loosening up carbon and assorted grungies.
Chuck

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Dave G

08-31-2000 18:31:36

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Re: more stupid questions in reply to VA, 08-31-2000 17:07:28

I'm no expert at working on old Fergies, but I do have quite a bit of experience working on engines.

The puff of white smoke sounds like coolant getting into the combustion chamber. Possible head gasket getting ready to blow or a cracked head. The head gasket is the more likely of the two problems. Check your oil and see if it looks brown and cloudy. That would indicate that the coolant is also getting into your oil. After fixing the problem, change the oil and coolant.

Most engine blocks have drain plugs in them. Check the manual for possible locations.

Heat is your best friend when removing stuck bolts from cast iron blocks. You'll need a gas torch. Not propane, it's not hot enough. Either map gas with oxygen or acetylene with oxygen. heat up AROUND the area of the stuck bolt while gently applying pressure in the direction needed to remove the bolt. DO NOT APPLY THE FLAME TO THE BOLT! The object is to apply enough heat to expand the metal around the bolt enough to remove it. The corrosion on the threads of the bolt keeps the bolt from heating up and expanding at the same rate at the block. The bolt should back out with ease. Do not use any liquid on the hot block after removing the stuck bolt. You don't want your block to cool too fast and crack. Just let it cool on it's own. Hope this helps! ~ Dave

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09-01-2000 17:32:38

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Re: Re: more stupid questions in reply to Dave G, 08-31-2000 18:31:36

Thanks for the replies. I just changed the oil last night and it was as black as midnight. I hope this indicates it is not a head gasket problem. Maybe there is water in the fuel or I need some of this Marvel Miracle stuff, we will see. Y'all will notice I am not using all capitals. I hope it is easy on the eyes, cause it sure is slowing me down. (I never touched a computer until I got my first tractor, now they ain't so bad, but typing is not my thing). Thanks again. VA.

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B.D.BRISCOE

08-31-2000 17:49:04

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Re: more stupid questions in reply to VA, 08-31-2000 17:07:28

VA, As the saying goes, "The only stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked".

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B.D. BRISCOE

08-31-2000 17:41:26

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Re: more stupid questions in reply to VA, 08-31-2000 17:07:28

VA, Read the manual again and see if they say the radiator or the whole cooling system, as there is also a draincock on the engine block just to the rear of the carburetor. My TO-35 also has just the one draincock on the radiator. An occasional sticking exaust valve can cause a cough and puff of smoke as you describe. Twice a year or so I put about a half cup or so of Marvel Mystery Oil in a full tank of gas when I know that I will be working the tractor for an extended period of time. The darn stuff is the best that I have found for keeping the top end clean and lubricated. It can also be added to your oil. Liquid Wrench #1 penetrating oil is still the best that I am aware of for frozen and rusted fasteners, but you still have to give it time to work. Good luck.

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tombo

08-31-2000 17:37:10

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Re: more stupid questions in reply to VA, 08-31-2000 17:07:28

Those capital letters are hard to read and hurt the eyes.

The other draincock is on the side of the engine right above the oilpan opposite side of the distributor and oil filter. Do NOT use an impact wrench. Only knuckleheads use an impact wrench on beautiful, old pieces of cast iron artwork.

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Fred OH

09-01-2000 10:29:39

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Re: Re: more stupid questions in reply to tombo, 08-31-2000 17:37:10

Whoa! Wait a minute! The best way to use a penetrant to loosen a stuck bolt is to apply it and then setup a vibration so the stuff can work its way in. I have found it best to set a rattlin wrench on a light setting and let it rattle for a while. I also work it in forward then in reverse. This is the best vibration that you could possibly get. If it's still tight after a few times of the above, put heat on the parent metal and do it again. You might reconsider your attitude about an impact wrench (rattlin wrench) and up your success rate on stuck bolts. You got to get smarter than the metal. This is a good place to do that. L8R----Fred

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