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te-20 rear axel seals

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dfitch

12-24-2005 04:36:03




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Are te-20 and to-20 rear axel seals the same. Where I order parts only has a listing for seals for a to-20 and they think te and to20 seals are different.




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mn.Chuck

12-24-2005 19:09:05




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 04:36:03  
TEand TO show the same in the parts book but
do yourself a favor and put in a Shur-Seal
if oil is leaking out of the axle. Tisco +
sell these. Your dealer should have them or
a good fleet store. Remove the outer axle
flange bolt nuts,pull the axle assy. out and
install the shur seal in the inner end of the
flange. This will disregard the other seals
and be the main seal. You must pack grease in
the bearings before putting the seal in. Chuck

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ZANE

12-24-2005 14:26:40




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 04:36:03  
Correct me if I'm wrong John but won't it be necessary to either use a huge powerful press to pull the axle bearing and retainer off the axle to replace the seal????

If so it is a lot easier to just use my silicone glue process to stop the oil leaking out on the brakes.

AXLE LEAK FIX WHEN NO INNER SEAL ON AXLE AS WITH OLDER 8Ns AND 9N/2N AND THE TO FERGUSONS


If the hub is not extremely tight so that you have to have a puller to get it off I think you can replace the seal yourself. If the hub is tight that is a good sign you might get it to stop leaking.The problem with the 48 8N is that it does not have an inner seal like the 51 and 52 do. If the hub is loose on the axle and it can't be tightened because of the spline being worn too much to allow any more tightening then you will not be able to stop the leak the conventional way unless you replace the axle and hub. I hope that is not the case.

If the axle is worn too much to allow it to be tightened then you might consider my fix for the leak and leave the hub loose a few more years. To fix the leak my unconventional way you pull the axle away from the axle housing about 6 or 8 inches and wrap the axle for about 6 inches from the outer end of the axle that is exposed with teflon tape.Wipe all the oil from the housing and then take a caulking tube full of silicone glue and pump it into the void between the axle and the housing. Keep the hub as close to the housing as you can till you get the silicone pumped in.Use the whole tube and then replace the axle into the housing and replace the bolts etc. Let the silicone cure overnight and then you can go about using the tractor. Be sure that the oil in the rearend etc is not over full as this will contribute to the axle leaking.

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gerard

12-26-2005 09:41:03




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to ZANE, 12-24-2005 14:26:40  
That silicon seal sure sounds like a bodge, but - if it works - what the heck? As for pressing off retainer / bearing, only bearing needs pressing off, and that shouldn"t be too tight. Retainer should be heated & hit with a cold chilse @ 90* - thereby loosening it. New retainer should never be pressed on, but heated & dropped on, like a ring gear.



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John (UK)

12-25-2005 12:23:16




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to ZANE, 12-24-2005 14:26:40  
You are of course quite correct Zane. I didn't go into all that because he seemed to be well on the way to fitting new seals so surely he must have found that out already, of course I could be wrong and he is only just starting doing it. Anyway sad to say I have not read about this thing of yours yet, so hanging my head in shame I am going to read it now...and digest the facts. Chat soon...John



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John (UK)

12-24-2005 12:04:33




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 04:36:03  
You only need sure seals prior to serial number 325,001 after that it was a heavier axle assy. and it had two seals fitted as standard.



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John (UK)

12-24-2005 12:22:24




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to John (UK), 12-24-2005 12:04:33  
I have another number for that outer seal 890640M1 was originally 2171 Ferguson



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danct

12-24-2005 09:05:23




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 04:36:03  
dfitch
looks like the outer seal # are the same, the part # is 195 557 M1 . You dont have an inner seal on your tractor as they only started at serial #325001
so per the parts manual the te and to are the same Danny



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Dennis P in Ohio

12-24-2005 05:48:28




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 04:36:03  
I did a search on Ebay and found Elm Tractor Parts. They list the axle seal as applicable to both the TE 20 and the To 20.



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dfitch

12-24-2005 05:39:50




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 04:36:03  
Forgot to add the serial number for the te-20 is
21052. Hope this will help find rear axel seals



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Brian Ambrose

01-13-2008 19:52:41




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 Re: te-20 rear axel seals in reply to dfitch, 12-24-2005 05:39:50  
we have one with #21258 just surprised how close # were Hope this not to bad a job replacing these seals



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