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TE20 hydraulic/gear/differental oil

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CDNRon

12-17-2005 11:45:01

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I have a 1953 TE20 and want to change the gear oil. The manual calls for SAE 80 or (90 in warmer weather) mineral oil. This stuff is hard to find. After doing some research on lubticants for Ferguson and Ford tractors at different tractor sites, I have a number of different recommendations ranging from 10W30 to an 80W90 gear oil (which meets API GL-4 and GL-5 specs). At one site, a comment was made that changing from a GL-1 rated oil to a GL-3 or higher may do damage to some of the brass parts within the transmission. Anyone heard of this before? Has anyone successfully used alternative (not recommended in the manual) oils and what did you use? If anyone has a "definitive" answer to "What"s the best oil to use to lubricate the hydraulic/gear/transmission systems in a TE20?" can you send it along.

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John (UK)

12-17-2005 13:24:46

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Re: TE20 hydraulic/gear/differental oil in reply to CDNRon, 12-17-2005 11:45:01

You can use Multi-grade 15W/30 now in the hydraulics and transmission. The original specification of GL1 no longer applies as all suppliers use a different make-up in the spec of this oil to what it was originally so using Multi-grade is better if you suffer cold climates too as it does not get as thick as GL1 type oil. The reason for specifying GL1 originally was to prevent additives used in the other types of oil causing corrosion of the yellow metals used in the bearings and spacers etc. in the hydraulics and transmission, Multi-grade meets this spec. so it will be thinner when cold and thicker when hot than the original GL1 type.

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CDNRon

12-17-2005 14:22:08

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Re: TE20 hydraulic/gear/differental oil in reply to John (UK), 12-17-2005 13:24:46

Thanks for the information John (UK). Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

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phil(va)

12-17-2005 13:13:22

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Re: TE20 hydraulic/gear/differental oil in reply to CDNRon, 12-17-2005 11:45:01

Ron, this is discussed and re discussed and maybe cussed some too in the archives of this site. Everyone doesn"t agree on everything, but I believe most everyone agrees that GL-5, etc., is bad for the yellow metal parts. Most people use mineral oil, or GL-1. NAPA sells it, as does WalMart in many places, and usually I can find it at TSC (Tractor Supply). Agri Supply also sells it, but they don"t have many stores. Some people use multiwt motor oil, available everywhere. If all your seals are good, you can use the Ford 134 oil, available at New Holland dealers and TSC. It does have a tendency to leak past some axle seals however. As I said, like certain body parts, everyone has an opinion on this, but the one thing everyone seems to agree on is not to use GL-3,4,5. The 90 wt. GL-1 will be slow to get going on a cold day if you are in a northern climate, and that is it"s biggest disadvantage, so you might consider the lighter wt. Ford 134 if you have very cold weather. I have never found 80 wt. GL-1, and am curious if anyone else has.

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CDNRon

12-17-2005 14:26:33

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Re: TE20 hydraulic/gear/differental oil in reply to phil(va), 12-17-2005 13:13:22

Thanks Phil. I didn't check the archives. I'll check the places you have suggested. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

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