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chuck130

11-07-2005 12:06:23




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My '54 TEA came with two headlights in an old box. They have the 'wing' style mounting flanges, which require two holes in the hood each. My hood only has one hole on each side, which leads me to believe that these style lights aren't correct for this machine. Does anyone know? Chuck




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BobinKY

11-07-2005 19:23:59




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 Re: TEA Headlights in reply to chuck130, 11-07-2005 12:06:23  
I just joined the Ferguson club and I bought a number of their back issues of the periodical, Furrows. In one of them (I can't remember which one) they had a great article about the headlights on the old Fergusons. Seems they all came from the factory to the dealer with no headlights. If you purchased the option for headlights, the dealer was inclined to put on whatever they had in stock. Some of the dealers bought the kits from Ferguson, others bought kits form Ford. The difference seems to be that the Ferguson had a chrome ring around the lens and the Ford did not. Still others bought aftermarket kits that ran the gammet. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it and I would be very frustrated if I were a purist. You can go to their web site and order the publication. I think they get $3 for back issues. Good luck.

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John (UK)

11-07-2005 17:56:28




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 Re: TEA Headlights in reply to chuck130, 11-07-2005 12:06:23  
From the description they sound like the Headlamps they fitted to the Ford 9N they had a "winged" mounting, look at the Ford parts on here for a picture.



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pjfenner

11-07-2005 20:08:35




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 Re: TEA Headlights in reply to John (UK), 11-07-2005 17:56:28  
John, all the Fergusons made in the USA or delivered to the USA and Canada used light kits made in the USA and were an option. All used the "wing" mounts with the "round" mount as an option. These appear to be an exact copy of the Ford light mounts.The lights were entirely different from Ford however, and I cover that in my FENA article referenced in another response above. Just for fun, John, could you describe the light configuration(S) used for the TE series in the UK/Europe. Readers might like to know the differences and there were many.

Phil(WA)

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John (UK)

11-08-2005 08:40:04




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 Re: TEA Headlights in reply to pjfenner, 11-07-2005 20:08:35  
Lighting regulations varied quite a bit over Europe, I think they may have got their act together now. In the UK the first lighting set had a folding arm on each side of the hood that carried a small sidelight, the idea of the arms folding was to allow a loader to be fitted without damaging the lights, on this same lighting kit it had one large headlamp sat right in the middle of the front of the hood, it looked like a "cyclops". On the rear in this same kit was a number plate and bracket that fitted to the right rear fender, this also carried a single red rear lamp and the plough lamp with a separate switch. The switch was actually a dip switch like they used on cars at that time and in the car you operated it with your foot, on the tractor you operated it with your hand. The later type had two headlamps mounted one either side of the Hood on a "V" shaped flat steel bracket that moved the lamp about 10 inches or so from the hood nearer the edge of the wheel-track so it marked the width of the tractor, just so approaching traffic knew how wide your vehicle was.If you had a loader fitted you didn't use the mounting brackets and just fixed the headlamps straight on to the hood about 6" apart right on top at the front, not legal but it was the only way. On the rear they had a red rear lamp about 5" x 2-1/2" mounted on each fender, the plough lamp was mounted on the right rear fender. I have various pictures of these lights if you need them.

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chuck130

11-08-2005 04:59:52




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 Re: TEA Headlights in reply to pjfenner, 11-07-2005 20:08:35  
Thanks for the input. Sounds like the 'winged' mounts are suitable (read original) enough. They do require two holes though; one for the hollow bolt that the wire runs through and one to receive a pin on the winged mount. I suspect that this pin prevents the whole assembly from spinning. My hood however, only has one hole, which looks punched not drilled. This leads me to believe it was done at the factory and thus accomodates a different mount? Not a purist, but I don't want to restore something that is blatantly wrong, either. P.S. I just sent off a money order for Ferg Furrows - any chance of tossing in the headlight issue? - I'll square up later.

Thanks.

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pjfenner

11-09-2005 12:39:27




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 Re: TEA Headlights in reply to chuck130, 11-08-2005 04:59:52  
Since lights were an option there were knockouts built in the hood for later installation of lights if desired. At least this was true for the TO series and mine had both holes necessary for the wings. For the TE series I am not sure if knockouts were available. Maybe John(UK) knows. If not, drill to fit!

Phil(WA)



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