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guyeli

09-21-2005 12:22:15




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What guage wires should I use to replace the old wiring on my 6 volt TO-30?




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phil Fenner

09-21-2005 21:05:27




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 Re: wiring question in reply to guyeli, 09-21-2005 12:22:15  
I agree with John T with one exception for you to consider and that is the batt cable and starter cable were #2 guage on original tractors.
The batt terminal on the neg post was a right hand "flag" terminal. Just a few thoughts for you if you want to make it look original. Of course to finish it off right one should cotton covered insulation type wire of the right color code per the wiring diagrams for the tractor.

Another retired electrical engineer.

Phil(WA)

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John T

09-22-2005 11:33:28




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 Re: wiring question in reply to phil Fenner, 09-21-2005 21:05:27  
Phil, they sure look better n authentic with that old fashion lookin cloth covered insulation versus the slick modern plastics, especially when thay have that black rubber lookin insulating boot material over terminal ends..... ... I get nervous with 2 gauge battery cables on 6 volt systems even if original, cuz if youre only starting with 6 volts I hate to see voltage drops and I squared R heat losses across wimpy cables.

What kind of engineering did you practice?? I did electronics some years ago but ended up in secondary distribution for industrial applications and used to reallyyyyy yyyy use my NEC, but forgot much of it by now.

John T in Indiana

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phil Fenner

09-22-2005 22:17:42




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 Re: wiring question in reply to John T, 09-22-2005 11:33:28  
John, #2 may seem wimpy compared to #00, but works well for me and I wanted original configurations of everything for my tractor. Most people have trouble with connections causing the voltage drop and if you keep everything nice and clean and shiny you should be ok.

I was involved in all phases of electronics design for commercial airplanes but primarily in navigation systems.

Phil(WA)



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John T

09-21-2005 14:19:18




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 Re: wiring question in reply to guyeli, 09-21-2005 12:22:15  
Guy, I dont have any wiring diagrams whatsoever on those tractors, but can tell you from experience and as an engineer what I use, but realize some of this may be slight overkill but which sure cant hurt.

1) On 6 volt systems I use 00 Gauge Battery n Starter n Ground cables.

2) For most general light wiring like from light switches out to any lights, I use 14 Gauge.

3) On the main charging and voltage supply circuits, although 14 could work fine in a lot of places, I USE ALL 12 GAUGE WIRE. That would include the voltage feed like from the battery or starter switch or solenoid up to the ammeters Supply side terminal,,,,, ,,,the wire or wires to feed loads like lights n ignition which is often a wire from the ammeters Load side terminal to the BAT input terminal on the respective switches,,,,, ,,the wire from the ammeters Load side terminal down to the BAT terminal on a Voltage Regulator or a Cutout Relay,,,,, ,,,finally the wire from the GEN (or ARM) terminal on a Voltage Regulator or Cutout Relay to the Armature post on the Generator.

4) 14 gauge (or even 16) will suffice like from the Gens Field post to the FLD terminal, on the Voltage Regulator.

5) Coil Ignition Circuit. The circuit from the Ignition switches IGN output terminal down to any ballast resistor and/or or the coil and then to the distributor only carries like 4 amps and 14 Gauge (or even 16) is way plenty, although I sometimes use 12 for the heck of it lol.

GENERALLY SPEAKING If you had no wire and only wanted to buy one roll, you could use all 12 Gauge and except for the charging and supply circuits (It may be a 20 amp Generator???) 14 will work in most other places, although even 16 Gauge would carry many of the typical loads.

John T Nordhoff in Indiana, retired electrical engineer

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