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entic

09-15-2005 08:24:17




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Hola, buenos dias, i own a t20 and live in Spain in the Alicante region and have a massive problem. The tractor over heats after abou 1/2 an hour and needs 1 hour to cool. Its not a good example but my friend bought it for me in England and brought it over to me last year. I have flushed out the water system and removed the thermostast. Where can i go from here to keep it cooler. I only have a harrow so its not working too hard. I would be interested if anybody has a fergie here in Spain. Help for an expat please.

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Mike Mohrhauser

09-15-2005 19:03:02




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 Re: overheating in reply to entic, 09-15-2005 08:24:17  
With the engine cold when you first start it up remove the radiator cap and watch to see if the water circulates as the engine starts to warm up. If you can't see water flowing in the radiator there is a chance that the thermostat is stuck shut and needs to be replaced. Be very careful. Do not open the radiator cap if the engine is hot.



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entic

09-16-2005 00:55:02




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 Re: overheating in reply to Mike Mohrhauser, 09-15-2005 19:03:02  
thanks Mike but i already said that i have removed the thermostat as its useless out here. With no thermostat there is nothing to stop the flow of water is there? unless of course the rad is blocked. If i need a replacement rad is there an alternative one that i could fit from a scrapyard say off a car or small lorry. Sorry to all you die hards that like to see an original fergie but i have to be practical and economical and recycle. well thats my excuse

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Jeff-oh

09-15-2005 10:18:05




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 Re: overheating in reply to entic, 09-15-2005 08:24:17  
Are the cooling fins on the radiator clean. Does your water pump need re-built?

Jeff



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Jeff-oh

09-16-2005 06:45:11




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 Re: overheating in reply to Jeff-oh, 09-15-2005 10:18:05  
When I had an over heating problem on my TE-20 it was caused by an external blockage of the radiator. Sorry to repeat but I did not get a clear understanding that this has been ruled out.

Open the hood (bonnet/nombre) and look from the engine side forward at the back of the radiator. You should see light comming freely through the radiator. It must not be clogged. If it is clogged take a water hose, or compressed air and sray the back side of the radiator to "blow" out the blockages. Keep doing this until the radiator external passages are clear.

Jeff

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marlowe

09-15-2005 16:42:49




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 Re: overheating in reply to Jeff-oh, 09-15-2005 10:18:05  
jeff asked if the fins are clean thats the out side of the radiator that the air is pulled trought if air is not pulled trought it can't cool use pressure washer and do both sides and i'll bet it will not over heat



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entic

09-15-2005 12:24:38




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 Re: overheating in reply to Jeff-oh, 09-15-2005 10:18:05  
Thanks for your quick reply. The fan blades are clean enough but re- the water pump, what could be wrong with that and why would it need a re-build. I did have thoughts to use a radiator flush fluid but when flushed for 10 minutes the water started dirty but then ran clean so i took it that was ok. Bear in mind the temperature out here today is 30 in the shade 87f and will be a future problem for me over and above England also i am not mechanical in any way other than common sense.

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Jerry/MT

09-15-2005 20:22:35




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 Re: overheating in reply to entic, 09-15-2005 12:24:38  
Why do you say your tractor is overheating? Do you have a temperature gauge that indicates this or is the coolant in the radiator boiling?

Are the passages through the radiator that the air passes through clean. Some times they get clogged with bits of grass, etc and clog the air side of the radiator. This can cause an overheating condition. The radiator cap should hold about 7 psi pressure in the cooling system. This raises the boiling point of the coolant. Make sure that your radiator cap is working properly.

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entic

09-16-2005 00:42:20




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 Re: overheating in reply to Jerry/MT, 09-15-2005 20:22:35  
Thanks Jerry and Leroy for your response. I will do as you say and check the radiator cap for 7 psi and i do have a temperature gauge on the tractor. Also thanks for your clear reasoning for checking the water pump Leroy, i will try to get around to this today but living in Spain things do seem to be manjana manjana but definately over the weekend. I just thought i ought to mention that i am running my fergie on neat leaded petrol and not tvo. You cant get tvo out here so it means making a concoction of leaded petrol and heating oil diesel at a rate of 5 to 1. Running it on neat petrol fuel shouldn't make it run hot should it.

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Leroy

09-15-2005 17:32:17




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 Re: overheating in reply to entic, 09-15-2005 12:24:38  
On the water pump there is what is cacced an impeller inside that causes it to pump or circulate the water, this has to be fast to the shaft so it turns with the fan belt or no water being pumped, also if it is tight on the shaft it could have the blades rusted, broke off inside or be warn enough that there is too much clearance between blades on impeller and housing allowing water to slip back past pump impeller blades without circulating. pull the pump and check it for loose, warn on missing parts, then with pump off try backflushing both the block and radiator, then after that runns good then reverce flush it till all runs good and clean, and while the pump is off so you can get to the outside of radiator make sure all the fins are straight and then flush the radiater core from both sides till you can see good daylight thru from both sides

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