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strange TO-20 problem

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dan in minnesot

08-17-2005 13:54:51




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Help me!

I have a 1950 to-20 ferguson. I used it to mow my yard. I pull a 6' douglas mower. the probelm is when I will mow for about a hour and the tractor will misfire and lose power, when that happens I push in the clutch and it seems to run ok but after 5 seconds it stops. I will wait for about 10 seconds and restart and go back to mowing for another 5-10 minutes, with out it happening again.
It has some blowby? Plugs fouling out? Electricial?

Help me out

Thanks Dan

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dan in minnesota

08-18-2005 14:43:26




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 Re: thanks strange TO-20 problem in reply to dan in minnesota, 08-17-2005 13:54:51  
THanks guys for all your help !!
I'll start to try some of these suggestions.

Thanks again, dan in minnesota



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Jeff-oh

08-18-2005 06:20:52




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 Re: strange TO-20 problem in reply to dan in minnesota, 08-17-2005 13:54:51  
One other suggestion, and I think it may be remote in this case. check that your fuel tank vent is not clogged. The Fuel cap has a vent hole in it.



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gshadel

08-18-2005 04:50:46




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 Re: strange TO-20 problem in reply to dan in minnesota, 08-17-2005 13:54:51  
Dan, I think Jerry hit it right on the head, sounds like ignition problem or maybe fuel flow problem. Work thru Jerry's pointers and you should be able to pin down the problem in no time. If your spark looks weak and orange, check your points/condenser - might want to just replace them (cheap), make sure your point gap is .020", too tight a gap results in weak spark. Don't know if Jerry hit the clean connections or not, make sure all your electrical connections to the coil, distributor, etc. are CLEAN. # 1 cause for poor ignition is corroded connections.
George

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Bob Weeks

10-03-2005 19:00:14




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 Re: strange TO-20 problem in reply to gshadel, 08-18-2005 04:50:46  
I have owned a TO20 for 33+ years and have experienced similar problems but different causes.
1. If the fabric wrapped around the gas line gets holes in it next to the exhaust manifold you can get vapor lock.
2.I had some gas tank liner come loose and clog the sediment bowl intake which made it run out of fuel and stall.



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Jerry/MT

08-17-2005 15:02:38




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 Re: strange TO-20 problem in reply to dan in minnesota, 08-17-2005 13:54:51  
You'll need top do some investigating. It could be a bad key switch, or a bad condensor in the ignition circuit or a bad coil. Or it could be an inadequate fuel supply caused by a faulty float level, partially clogged float valve,or restricted fuel supply.
To check out the ignition circuit, when the engine dies, remove the plug wire from any plug, insert a paper clip in the wire end, hold it near a good ground and with the key on, have someone engage the starter. You should have a fat, bluish spark snapping from the plug wire. if it's orangey or yellowish, that's not good. Gotta' be bluish. If it is bluish, then I'd say that your ignition MIGHT be OK. Feel the wiring right after it shuts down as well as the coil. Are they really warm or hot to the touch? If they are then you have high resistance in the wiring or your coil is overheated because your using a 6 volt coil on a 12 volt system without a ballast resistor.( A true 12 volt coil has the reistance built in to it but to use a 6 volt coil requires a resistor to drop the 12 V current to the coil by about 50 % .)
Start it up again and run it till it stops, then holding a can to catch the $2.50 a gallon gas, open the plug on the bottom of the carburetor. Fuel should gush out in a continuous stream for as long as you hold the can under it with the plug out. If you pass that test, check the vent in the gas filler cap to make sure that it's open. if you don't get a big bunch of fuel, check the "secret filter'in the fuel elbow on the carb and work your way back tot he tank to find out where the obstruction is. If you don't find anything, you'll haveto take off the carb and check the float setting and the float valve.
this ought to get you started (No pun intended!). Do everything systematically and record the results so you can recall them. Get back tot he forum so we can help you if you get stuck.

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Rick Weaver

08-17-2005 21:11:18




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 Re: strange TO-20 problem in reply to Jerry/MT , 08-17-2005 15:02:38  
Hi,

I had the same problem mowing at times. I finally figured out that the gas tank was "just at that spot" and the tractor at just enough tilt on an incline that the gravity feed wasn't enough to keep gas flowing. Topped off the tank and problem disappeared. Maybe you can already rule this out, but if not, try this next time and see what happens. There also may be a slight clog in the fuel line if this trick works.

I guess I'm done for the night - my cat just came and lay down on the keyboard.

Rick

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