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TO 20 adjustable top link bar

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Raye Ann

08-03-2005 05:37:25




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Another gentleman told me to replace the top link bar when bush hogging with a chain. He says it would prevent any damage if one would hit a stump or something on that order. My question is, does it make a difference?
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Greg Indy

08-03-2005 13:59:28




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to Raye Ann, 08-03-2005 05:37:25  
I have a Woods 6' finish mower and i use a chain in the top link. The mower seems to follow the terrain better if it can pivot upwards on the lower arms if you drop your rear wheels in a dip but the weight of the mower will keep tension on the chain on level ground.



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mowr

08-06-2005 07:43:03




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to Greg Indy, 08-03-2005 13:59:28  
It sounds to me like you"re using a regular top link for your third point and have added a "stay chain" assembly which connects from the area of the top link pin to the area of the lower lift pins. This is a proper way to help reduce scalping on uneven terrain and not related to the dangerous practice of using a chain IN PLACE OF A TOPLINK.



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John (UK)

08-04-2005 06:13:33




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to Greg Indy, 08-03-2005 13:59:28  
Well don't say you haven't been warned should anything happen. The only thing you can do to make this method safer if you insist on using it is to thread the chain through a piece of tube that is almost the same length as the chain, so you still get a bit of flexibility but should something happen then the chain will be more or less rigid and prevent anything nasty happening. You should look through the archives and research this question, not everyone else can be wrong.

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John (UK)

08-03-2005 09:54:26




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to Raye Ann, 08-03-2005 05:37:25  
The "gentleman" that told you that is rather misguided in his information, under no circumstances use a chain instead of a top link. Using a proper top link makes sure that the implement cannot flip over on top of the driver, this is possible under some operating circumstances. If the Hog does hit a stump and the tractor is going forward at a reasonable speed, the Hog could tip forward onto the driver if there is not a rigid top link to hold it in place. It's no use saying it is too heavy and it won't do that, because IF it does it is too late. This applies not only to Hogs but to any mounted implement, probably more so than a Hog as they are usually lighter and so are more easily flipped over. To use a Hog correctly you do need a rigid top link so that the tractor can control the height of the front of the Hog. If you wish to know more about that, then post on here again.

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John (UK)

08-03-2005 12:12:19




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to John (UK), 08-03-2005 09:54:26  
If you use a Bush Hog, read this and try it, this will make your mowing a lot easier.

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Posted by marlowe on June 23, 2004 at 16:01:09 from (209.103.204.81):

In Reply to: position control...chains?? posted by mr chapp on June 23, 2004 at 06:16:49:

dear mister chapp. i have sold and serviced hogs for years and see this all the time. PLEASE don't take this wrong but it's a real common mistake that they are not beening mounted right.i know what your thinking how hard is it to put a hog on a tractor and go cut some grass? but!! your hog has a tail wheel right? your tractor has 2 lower lift arms right? set your hog on a 4x4 so it is level lower your tail wheel so it's on the ground. now put your tractor on but[[[[ DON'T]]] hook up the PTO with tractor running put the 3pt. control lever in the middle of the range and turn your top link so it will get longer and you will feel you 3pt. raise just a little and the stop but when you make the top link long it will raise a little more that because the control piston under the set is being pushed in and that makes you 3pt. lift untill the pressure is releasted.with a little fine tuning and a little setting of the tail wheel up or down for the height of cut you want your hog will cut at the height you want. if you have ANY questions call me i will help you set it right 1-920-446-3296 your hog should not be hanging on the tractor when your cutting but rideing on the tail wheel and the 3pt. at a set height and that is controled by your top link. good luck and if you need help call.

With all due reference to Marlowe for this article on the Bush Hog and the TE/TO20 tractor

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Raye Ann

08-03-2005 10:19:58




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to John (UK), 08-03-2005 09:54:26  
Thanks, I didn't think so....I've farmed around my grandfather for years (he's past so I can't ask him) and he always used a top link. Thank you for your help.....



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steveormary

08-03-2005 20:36:27




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 Re: TO 20 adjustable top link bar in reply to Raye Ann , 08-03-2005 10:19:58  
Raye Ann;

Where the top link attaches to the hog should be slotted. This would allow some flexibility for up and down movement.Remember too that about one half throttle gives you your 540 pto rpm speed on the TO 20. So dont overspeed.

steveormary



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