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safety start in gearshift - TE20

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DennisP in Ohio

06-22-2005 10:36:44




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My TE 20 was converted to 12 volt, BUT there is no safety device to prevent starting in gear.
I am wondering if I can wire from the ignition switch to the old starter switch, mounted on top of the transmission. In other words, if the key was on, could I activate the "start" position on the gear pattern?
I'm not much at wiring, but perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable can help.
The idea here, of course, is to prevent a serious accident, which I nearly had the other day.

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Mark Kothe

06-26-2005 16:59:42




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 Re: safety start in gearshift - TE20 in reply to DennisP in Ohio, 06-22-2005 10:36:44  
You do not mention if the 12 volt starter has an external solenoid. If so, do you start it with a key switch? Is so, you could either replace the key circuit with the shifter switch, or interrupt the key circuit so you would have to both turn the key switch, and actuate the shifter switch. Would be a little weird, but you would never accidentally actuate the starter trying to find reverse.

Write back if you need further clarification.

Mark

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Dennis P in Ohio

06-28-2005 08:34:44




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 Re: safety start in gearshift - TE20 in reply to Mark Kothe, 06-26-2005 16:59:42  
Thanks for the reply.
There is an external or remote mounted solenoid.
I was wondering if I could wire from the start position terminals on the ignition switch to the integral, gear shift activated safety switch, Then it would act like a jumper between these terminals(?)
What do you think?
Thanks again.



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John(UK)

06-22-2005 10:53:41




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 Re: safety start in gearshift - TE20 in reply to DennisP in Ohio, 06-22-2005 10:36:44  
If as you say the starter switch is still there then you have everything you need for this.That switch on the clutch housing IS the safety device, if it is wired correctly it will only start when you use the gear lever in the start position and if you do that it is automatically out of gear. Fasten the main battery lead to one terminal of the switch and the main lead from the starter to the other. If it doesn't work when you do this, try slackening off the screws that hold the switch to the tractor and slide it forwards slightly so the lever inside will pull the switch to the ON position, this could be why the switch was disconnected in the first place. If the switch doesn't work at all you can get a new one even now.

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RWK in WI

06-23-2005 19:30:41




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 Re: safety start in gearshift - TE20 in reply to John(UK), 06-22-2005 10:53:41  
I have been told that using the origional starter switch can cause problems. It you accidently move the shift lever to the start position when going to revers with the engine running the starter spins and jams the bendex into the flywheel. Result is broken bendex and missing teeth on the flywheel or worse. Please be careful.



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John(UK)

06-24-2005 06:49:36




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 Re: safety start in gearshift - TE20 in reply to RWK in WI, 06-23-2005 19:30:41  
Err,,I don't think so, Don't believe everything you hear, a lot of it is old wives tales. In all the time I have been associated with these tractors I have never heard of one doing that, sure it could CATCH the flywheel just like the starter on your car could if you turn the key while the engine is running. If the engine is running it won't jam the Bendix as it will throw it out of mesh and it wont break teeth off the flywheel either, it might chip a few if you are really unlucky but you get more wear and tear on a tractor that is doing a lot of starting and stopping. There are tractors fitted with loaders changing from forward to reverse all day long and they don't suffer from starter problems caused by the way you mention and they are fitted with this standard safety starter system.

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