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is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n

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cr vollen

05-27-2005 19:03:01




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i want to restore either a ferguson te 20 or a ford 8n. what one is machanicly better and what will last me longer with fewer problems and where can i get body parts for a te 20, thanks.




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lonestarjeff

05-30-2005 19:02:00




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to cr vollen, 05-27-2005 19:03:01  
The 8N"s flathead 4 is easier to rebuild, but the Fergy"s OHV 4 will last longer between rebuilds(if you"re going to work it). The 8N has position control on the lift, which is handy when you need to control & hold the height of your implement, the Fergy lift is all the way up or all the way down(no in-between); however, there are inexpensive aftermarket kits for the Fergy.

I agree the MF-35 would be better than both, but the Ford NAA would be the closer comparison & has live hydraulics.

Jeff

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Leroy

05-29-2005 17:35:25




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to cr vollen, 05-27-2005 19:03:01  
I would consider a TO 20 But not a TE 20 because of parts avaibility in the USA, outside may be different but the TE unless it is the first year before the TO 20 was built was not shipped to the USA so no parts or dealer support. Between the TO 20 and the 8 N you wouldn't know one from the other driving it, just if you want a front loader some cannot be used on the ferguson without taking the hood off and leaving it off because the loaders will not let you tip the hood for fueling or to check radiator

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Gerald J.

05-29-2005 13:45:21




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to cr vollen, 05-27-2005 19:03:01  
Except for the last year of production the Ford 8N used a front mounted distributor that is tough to work on.

Otherwise they are probably comparable tractors. I had an 8N. I have a MF-135 the difference in quality and capabilities is large. The 135 can do all the things the 8N promised.

Gerald J.



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Bus Driver

05-28-2005 10:02:46




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to cr vollen, 05-27-2005 19:03:01  
I drove a TO-20 back quite a bit when they were new. Have very little experience on an 8-N. I think the TE-20 has Lucas elecrical equipment while the TO-20 uses USA electrical equipment. It is rare for anyone to say good things about the older Lucas equipment. My guess is that parts availability for the 8-N is probably the best of any and all old tractors. But my preference to own would be the TO-20.

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John(UK)

05-28-2005 07:57:58




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to cr vollen, 05-27-2005 19:03:01  
When you say TE20 that has a Continental engine, but there is a TEA20 with a Standard Motors engine and there are two versions of that model, an 80mm bore engine and an 85mm bore engine. Try to get a genuine 12v model (85mm air intake on dash)Spare parts are available for most things although in some areas you may have to order from your local tractor dealer for delivery in a couple of days. Sparex and Vapormatic do aftermarket parts for these tractors and you can buy some from this site too, go to top of page. Sparex do biggest selection. You can get most sheet metal items but not the hood top (yet)

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steveormary

05-27-2005 20:49:53




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to cr vollen, 05-27-2005 19:03:01  
Ya,probably I would go with a TE-20.

steveormary



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Delbert from Lincoln

05-28-2005 08:39:53




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to steveormary, 05-27-2005 20:49:53  
Ive owned both 8-N Fords and TE-20 (Contential engine) I think the TE-20 will do anything that the Ford will do, only do it better and on less fuel. I can get just about any part I need for the TE-20. My opinion. Don"t want to start a fight or anything.



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Delbert from Lincoln

05-28-2005 18:15:45




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 05-28-2005 08:39:53  
I"m going to give you another thought. Can you afford to spend a little more, and get a Ferguson TO-35. They are a mighty fine tractor, slightly larger physically, but not much, more power, the Deluxe models have a 2 stage clutch, you step the clutch halfway down, the tractor travel stops, but the PTO and the hydrulic pump keep running. If you step the clutch all the way down, everything stops. That is handy on a brushhog, baler, or most any implement that runs off the PTO. Just a thought.

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ferguson lover

05-30-2005 13:26:53




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 05-28-2005 18:15:45  
I have both. A Ford 8N 1950 w/side mount distributor and a Ferguson TO-35 Deluxe 1955. I like the Ferguson much better as a working tractor, because of the 2 stage clutch. I think this makes it a safer tractor.



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Delbert from Lincoln

05-28-2005 18:14:06




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 05-28-2005 08:39:53  
I"m going to give you another thought. Can you afford to spend a little more, and get a Ferguson TO-35. They are a mighty fine tractor, slightly larger physically, but not much, more power, the Deluxe models have a 2 stage clutch, you step the clutch halfway down, the tractor travel stops, but the PTO and the hydrulic pump keep running. If you step the clutch all the way down, everything stops. That is handy on a brushhog, baler, or most any implement that runs off the PTO. Just a thought.

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AllAboutJeeps

05-31-2005 07:26:45




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 Re: is a ferguson te 20 better than a ford 8n in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 05-28-2005 18:14:06  
My vote is for the 8n for three reasons.

1. Whoever decided to put the individual left shoe brake on the same side of the tractor as the clutch should be shot! It really makes it hard to work the fergie in tight areas like blading out stalls or even backing equipment into a tight spot. 2. The 8n has position control on the hydraulics. I know the fergie can be adapted, but it isn't as slick a system as the factory 8n system.
3. Parts availability. You pay more of a premium for fergie parts and TSC stocks most common 8n parts.

So, you may ask, why am I hanging around the Fergi board? Well, I grew up driving a to20 and am in the process of restoring it. I am keeping it more for sentimental reasons than functional reasons. The one plus to a fergie is they are more rare. It is fun when someone says 'how do you like your old Ford?' and you can say 'I don't, but I sure like my Fergie'.

...danny

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