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Tymoc

05-09-2005 10:28:39

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I'm thinking of purchasing a Ferguson to replace my much in need of repair 528N. I'd like to ask some questions before looking. Is there anything I should look for that seems to be a weak area in these tractors. Anything special that shouldn't be bent,busted, missing. IE expensive. Can the pan be dropped without splitting the tractor. Are the brakes "car type" brakes as far as replacement/adjustment. What type of diff. gears are used, straight cut??
What type of stearing, worm gear??
Any comments would be a great help. Oh yea does the 3 point have draft control? Thanks.

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Jeff-oh

05-10-2005 06:26:22

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Re: Newbe questions in reply to Tymoc, 05-09-2005 10:28:39

It is true that the 9N/2N & TO-20, To-30 do not have postiton control as a built in feature. It is also true that Pos. control is not required to bush hog, or use a blade. With proper set-up the position control is not needed.... That said Pos. Control does make it easier.

And to be complete there are more aftermarket products than the zane thang. There is the Fergy Positioner, the plans available on this site and height chains.

Included for completeness.

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phil(va)

05-10-2005 12:15:37

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Re: Newbe questions in reply to Jeff-oh, 05-10-2005 06:26:22

Thanks, Jeff. I'm aware of the Fergie Positioner, in fact I have one installed on one of my TO-30s. However, not long after I bought mine the US distributor (in Ohio) quit selling them and I have not heard of the FP being sold in the US in several years. Is it available here? In fact, the Ohio distributor did not respond to my request, and I had to buy it directly from Australia, but I later heard they weren't shipping them here anymore from overseas. Maybe that's not correct, at least I hope not, but that's the word I got. The chain option costs about $25 if you buy that setup from one of the mail order houses. It works, sorta, but I think it is better to put that money into one of the other options, so that's why I didn't mention it, although as you said it is an alternative.

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phil(va)

05-09-2005 16:37:13

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Re: Newbe questions in reply to Tymoc, 05-09-2005 10:28:39

You didn't say what Ferguson you are looking at. I going to assume it is either a TO30 or a TO20. If not, ignore much of my answer. The Ferguson has draft control, but a better question for a previous 8N owner would be, does it have position control. The answer to that question is 'NO' it does not. You will need to add position control if you do bush hogging or if you scrape a driveway with a blade, etc. Zane Sherman in Alabama, and on the 8N board, sells the Zane Thang which will add position control to a Fergie (or 9N) and I believe his current price is $90 delivered. As for things to watch for, make sure it does not have any cracks in the block, or if so if they have been properly repaired. Check the oil for coolant and the coolant for oil. Brakes are similar to car drums and adjust same as old cars, just not hydraulic of course. TO30s and 20s have one main brake pedal for both brakes, and right and left pedal separate levers are back near thigh, not side by side for your right foot like 8N. Some like that, but I prefer the 8N arrangement myself. A TO30 will outpull a 8N, mostly due to the overhead valves I suspect. It will pull more like a NAA. The TO20 has the oil filter in the pan, which is a pain, and of course the 20 has less power than the 30. I wouldn't go back to a 20 if I had been using a 8N, and I'm mostly a Ferguson guy. As the other post said, if you want to step up, look for a TO35 (or Ford NAA). Hope that helps.

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Jeff-oh

05-09-2005 10:34:21

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Re: Newbe questions in reply to Tymoc, 05-09-2005 10:28:39

If you are replacing an 8N you probally want to look at a TO-35, MF-35, MF-135. These will be of a step newer technology than the 8N. A TO-30 will be similar to the 8N with a little more power.

The same principils to purchasing any tractor should be imploied, Look for blue smoke, check the fluids, check the hydraulics etc.

Yes all of H. Ferg.'s tractors from the early 1930's through the ford years (9N and 2N) and including his own name plate and MF have draft control.

Jeff

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