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clearfield

05-01-2005 09:34:29




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Hello group
Recently I had posted about a problem with my 52, TO-30 when I started the engine all I could get was idle and it was pushing air pressure back through the air intake it would sit there and idle and make a putting sound all of you said it sounded like a stuck intake valve so I removed the head and found one of the intakes carboned up removed all the valves, and had a local shop do a valve job purchased a valve gasket set and reinstalled everything went well, started back up and same problem as before still pushes air back through the intake and will hardly idle
I have run the whole engine process through my head and I am missing something where could the pressure be coming from ????? HELP
Clearfield.

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clearfield

05-02-2005 19:28:34




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 Re: Help in reply to clearfield, 05-01-2005 09:34:29  
I really do not think its a timing or a wire problem the tractor was running fine the end of last year 2004 it was placed in out equipment shed and nothing was done to it until a few weeks ago and we charged the battery and tried to start it so soemthing happened over the winter say 6 month time I had really thought that it was a piece of carbon stuck in a intake valve
the distb cap and wire were never removed until I removed the head
I am going to do a compression test and see if they are somewhat equil in specs.
someone said its maybe a cam lobe worn off but it ran so good last fall soemthing like that does not come on so quick There is a old time tractor guy up the road from me I may have him coem down and take a look at her

will keep u posted
clearfield

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Fred OH

05-02-2005 09:52:56




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 Re: Help in reply to clearfield, 05-01-2005 09:34:29  
My TO-20 was doing the same thing when I installed new spark plug wiring and my buddy listened to it and said "shut it off"...and he switched #2 and 4 wires and it was perfect then. I wired it thinking the distributor ran clockwise and it actually runs counter clockwise. Fred OH



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John(UK)

05-01-2005 14:16:55




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 Re: Help in reply to clearfield, 05-01-2005 09:34:29  
Make sure that you have the plug leads on the correct plugs. Firing order is 1/3/4/2. number one plug is connected to the lead at 10mins to the hour if the distributor cap was a clock. and the leads are connected ANTI- clockwise (running opposite to a clock)



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clearfield

05-01-2005 16:50:35




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 Re: Help in reply to John(UK), 05-01-2005 14:16:55  
Is the #1 cyl the one closest to the front of the tractor ?
My dist cap the # 1 wire is more like at 7 oclock if that makes any since the # 2 wire is more like at 10 oclock



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John(UK)

05-02-2005 04:56:02




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 Re: Help in reply to clearfield, 05-01-2005 16:50:35  
Clearfield, Looks like someone has fitted your distributor incorrectly.



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Dave in CA

05-02-2005 17:18:02




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 Re: Help in reply to John(UK), 05-02-2005 04:56:02  
John, the distributor on my TO35 has #1 at 7 o'clock also.

It seems to me that it shouldn't make any difference where one is at on the distributor as long as the wires are correctly placed counterclockwise and the #1 piston is at the top on the firing revolution when the dist. button is on #1.

Am I wrong?

Dave



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John(UK)

05-03-2005 04:50:55




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 Re: Help in reply to Dave in CA, 05-02-2005 17:18:02  
Hi Dave,You are absolutely correct in what you say, it does NOT matter where it is. Just for the sake of standardisation if they are all fitted the same way as it was intended then when a fault develops we can talk about it and it will make sense to the guy who has to sort it out, more often than not he will only a very limited knowledge of an engine so it does make it very hard for him then. If you have a reasonable knowledge then it is ok for you personally, but you have to think about the guy who hasn't and maybe unable to get help easily, anything that can cause him confusion is not good and if he looks in a manual for help and it isn't fitted as it was supposed to be, this immediately creates a problem for him. Some people are able to cope with that, others cannot, so you have to think about them as there will be more like that than there are "experts"

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Dave in CA

05-03-2005 08:31:13




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 Re: Help in reply to John(UK), 05-03-2005 04:50:55  
John, your insihgt is appreciated.

Good to talk with you,

Dave



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Nickkk

05-01-2005 19:25:03




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 Re: Help in reply to clearfield, 05-01-2005 16:50:35  
#1 is at the front of the engine....and if your timing is somewhat correct, the #1 wire on the cap will be close to 10 o"clock.
good luck
Nick



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gerard

05-01-2005 12:39:48




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 Re: Help in reply to clearfield, 05-01-2005 09:34:29  
Long shot - is your firing order correct at 1342? I was thinking you could have a cylinder "firing" out of time causing this. I presume in the head job any broken valve springs etc etc would have been noticed. Only other thing that"ll cause a "phutting" noise is blown manifold gasket, but this won"t cause blowback.



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