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TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long Pos

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MattinRaleigh

03-08-2005 16:25:11




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I have a TO-20 with the older style guage (I assume) that doesn't have a number correlation to PSI, only low and high and somewhere in the middle.

Is there a way to verify oil pressure other than the guage. It appears to be working and stays in the middle for the most part, however when I am under a load and need more throttle the pressure dips until I rev it up a little. Bascially, If I can calibrate a measurement on guage with PSI, that might give me some peace of mind. It is hard to trust a 50 year old guage.

Also, is some discharge from coolant exhaust normal. I had a few splatters of bright green on my distributor after recently plowing a ditch.

Lastly, I was told by the person I bought tractor from that the serial number was gone because battery leaked and ate them away. Are there any other number to help identify?

On the opposite side of housing, the battery acid actually ate all of the way through. I have a hole about the size of a quarter. Would the proper way to patch be JB weld?

thanks to all, great forum. This support network and the passion all of you contribute weighed into my decison on buying the tractor. (Just got it Saurday)

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Mr Chapp

03-12-2005 05:50:02




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to MattinRaleigh, 03-08-2005 16:25:11  
Hi Matt... My ser.# was well painted as well. I used a paint stripper to remove the initial 2 layers, and mineral spirits applied to 0000 steel wool to rub out the rest without damaging the plate. By the way, my # plate is aluminum, or similar metal, not brass...John UK, is this origional? Also, my gasket at the top water inlet to the head sprung a leak and put coolant on the dist. Good luck, have fun, Mike

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John UK

03-13-2005 12:45:02




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to Mr Chapp, 03-12-2005 05:50:02  
They used Brass plates early on then changed to Aluminium on both TE series and TO too. I have never seen any information when the change was made though. Any leak at the front end always seems to finish up on the distributor, must be due to airflow I suppose.



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Jeff-oh

03-10-2005 06:32:59




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to MattinRaleigh, 03-08-2005 16:25:11  
Glad to hear that you still have your Tractor SN plate. (Steering column plate) The SN ID plate the seller was reffering to in all likelyhood was the engine ID plate. The engine ID plate is/was located on the left side tword the rear of the engine. It is just above and behind the solonoid and is attached below the valve cover. (All that is left of mine is three corners and a rivet.)

To get the SN of the tractor 1st varify the model. As it could be a TE-20.

1) Verify engine is a Z-120. (Cast number lowe left of engine) If yes then you had a TO-20 or a TE-20
2) look at gear shift cover plate. If a stand alone cover then it is a TO-20. (i.e bolted down on four sides). If it is integral with the steering column then it is a TE-20. (i.e. bolted on three sides and front is one piece with the column)

3) if a TO then the SN is at the top of the plate and will be "TO ######" if a TE then the sn is at the bottom of the plate and will read "TE #####".

Carefully remove the over paint and see if you can get the SN. The SN is stamped into the brass plate.

Jeff

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Jerry/MT

03-09-2005 15:35:07




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to MattinRaleigh, 03-08-2005 16:25:11  
When you the fill the radiator to the very top and the coolant get heated up to operating temperature, it will expand and flow out of the overflow tube. When the engine cools down, open the radiator cap and look at the coolant level. It will be somewhat below the level of the filler neck. (This, of course, assumes that the pressure cap is working properly.) Make a mental note of this level because that's all the higher you have to fill it with coolant.

As an engineer, I have never liked pressure gauges without numerical scales. You can buy a gauge that has numerical markings on it and for this series of Continental engines, the operating oil pressure on a new or rebuilt engine should be 25-30 psi (30 psi is the relief valve pressure setting); between 20-30 psi at 2200 engine rpm on any engine and the minimum acceptable pressure at idle is 15 psi. That's what the Ferguson Shop Manual says.

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MattinRaleigh

03-09-2005 14:50:05




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to MattinRaleigh, 03-08-2005 16:25:11  
Should the tractor vent coolant?



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John (UK)

03-09-2005 15:01:50




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to MattinRaleigh, 03-09-2005 14:50:05  
Not unless you have filled it recently or it is boiling. You could check the Radiator cap for leaking too, also a tube in the radiator itself could be damaged. Look for the tell-tale marks where the water has been leaking. If it is the overflow on the radiator and you haven't filled it recently it is possible that you could have an air leak into the water system due to a head gasket or a cracked liner or even a cracked head, remove the radiator cap and check it for blowing bubbles in the water, be careful if it's hot you don't scald yourself, put a heavy cloth around the cap while you remove it. There is also the water pump that could be blowing onto the Distributor cap or the by-pass hose could be damaged in some way, or maybe just a gasket in that area,possibly the one at the back of the water pump to the block. Just look for the water marks though that will give you a clue.

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Jeff-oh

03-09-2005 06:44:12




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to MattinRaleigh, 03-08-2005 16:25:11  
You have a replacement guage already. The origional guages had a psi rating from 0 to 40 or 50 psi. (Most modern guages go up to 80 psi.

For your piece of mind. If you have any oil pressure you will be fine. rebuilt pressures of 30psi cold and 20 psi warmed up on a hot summer day are normal. Worn pump pressures as low as 10 psi are acceptable.

If you want, get a different replacement pressure guage. Couple post below your discusses nice replacements available,

The SN was on a plate that mounted on the steering column, It is hard to see how a batter leak could harm the sn plate. A battery leak could harm the engine SN plate which is mounted just above the starter.

Hote this helps
Jeff

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John (UK)

03-09-2005 11:49:00




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to Jeff-oh, 03-09-2005 06:44:12  
I was thinking exactly the same thing myself about the battery corroding the tag away like that Jeff..... Another excuse to add to our collection do you think....lol



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Matt in Raleigh

03-09-2005 14:00:19




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to John (UK), 03-09-2005 11:49:00  
Thanks, there is a plate over steering wheel. It has been well painted though and is basically smooth-any suggestions?



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John (UK)

03-09-2005 14:41:33




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to Matt in Raleigh, 03-09-2005 14:00:19  
On a TO20 the serial number is stamped in that plate at the top edge and usually the number is visible under the paint or at least you should see part of it so you know one is there, if there is a number you have to carefully clean the paint off the plate using maybe paint thinners to melt it off rather than a paint stripper which will be too severe and maybe ruin the plate. But from your earlier posting I took it that the plate was no longer there due to corrosion from battery acid, that was why I was mailing Jeff.Oh. as we see all kinds of excuses about how the tag has gone missing and that was a different one that we haven't heard for some time. There is no other place for the serial number, you can get the date the trumpet housings were cast by the numbers on the rear axle castings.

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mattinraleigh

03-09-2005 14:53:06




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to John (UK), 03-09-2005 14:41:33  
thanks, seller said serial number was below battery. Would you patch that hole with JB weld?



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John (UK)

03-09-2005 15:16:59




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 Re: TO 20 oil pressure guage/ Other questions/Long in reply to mattinraleigh, 03-09-2005 14:53:06  
I guess you are sat at the other end waiting for replies....lol
The number is on the plate you mentioned, in front of the steering wheel, not below the battery. You could use anything that will block the hole satisfactorily as long as it doesnt leak and allow water in, although I suppose its got all kinds in right now, but thats a job for another day.



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