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Steve Y

04-18-2000 14:46:50




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I'm New to the tractor scene and recently picked up a 1949 TO20 that ran great. Then one day the tractor would not fire. I charged the battery and replaced it with a new one and still can not get any juice. My cables appear to be in good shape. Is there a way to test the other electric components? HElP!




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Fred Martin- Greenfield,Oh

06-09-2000 10:15:00




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 Re: Starting TO20 in reply to Steve Y, 04-18-2000 14:46:50  
How to decide what oil to use. Get her to operating temperature and note at idle and WOT (wide open throttle)which will be less with oil hot. If oil pressure at idle is down to less than ten pounds, I will go with a 40 wt. oil at the next change. If I have just changed the oil, I will put in a can of STP which moves it up one weight to keep the oil pressure up where it belongs. It helps some but you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Look inside of the oil filler cap and neck or under the valve cover and if it looks awful cruddy, I won't use a high detergent oil without first pulling the oilpan and valve cover and cleaning all the deposits out first. Then you have a good chance of running the modern multi-viscosity oils without damaging the engine. In my opinion a straight 30 wt. won't carry as much pressure as a multi-viscosity 10W30 oil and Quakerstate 10W30 will carry more pressure when it is ready to be changed than Pennzoil 10W30 when it is brand new. Maybe that's why Pennzoil Co. bought out Quakerstate. They say that you have to turn your head when you pour in the Quakerstate cause it pours like water. Sure does the job though. I always use a good quality oil filter, like a Fram, rumor mill has it that someone sawed a cheap one in two and it had a roll of toilet paper in it. FWIW. Don't own any stocks, just run 'em and will give you my honest opinion.
L8R----Fred

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Arnold Bruns

06-03-2000 11:16:36




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 Re: Starting TO20 in reply to Steve Y, 04-18-2000 14:46:50  
Having read the advice you have received thus far I might add that if the starter is not turning over the engine It may have a dead spot or the whole starter may be shot. To find a repacement, consider checking out one used on a Ford tractor of about the same vintage. Some of the parts were inter-changeable between the two makes. If the starter is turning over the engine, try replacing the coil. When a coil goes bad they usually die just like somebody shot them. So far as weight of oil. We ran one for 15 years on 20W20. In hot weather some people used 30 weight. It does take 6 quarts as I recall to fill it.

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lars

05-26-2000 13:59:05




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 Re: Starting TO20 in reply to Steve Y, 04-18-2000 14:46:50  
steve, be careful jumping with a 12 volt battery, if you use it too much you can cook the starter. the voice of experience here after i rebuilt the engine in my to-20 i used a 12 volt jump pack to crank it because the 6-volt battery i had was weak. now i have to rebuild the starter. its ok to use the 12-volt just not too much. as for the oil i use 20w-50 pennzoil in the summer and 10w-30 in the winter. the to-20 uses 6 quarts of oil. check the research and info section at this site there is a very good article on oil there. good luck and let us know how everything goes.

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NealIN

04-20-2000 04:36:56




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 Re: Starting TO20 in reply to Steve Y, 04-18-2000 14:46:50  
Steve
When you say will not fire do you mean that the engine doesn't turn over with the starter or that it turns but doesn't start.

Neal



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SteveY

04-20-2000 15:06:45




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 Re: Re: Starting TO20 in reply to NealIN, 04-20-2000 04:36:56  
Thanks for you resopnce Neal. I mean that the starter will only turn over when its jumped by a 12 volt battery. There is a new battery in the tractor that has been charged. Neal another thing if you will,what grade oil do you suggest for this tractor and how much?



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Robin

04-24-2000 11:31:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Starting TO20 in reply to NealIN, 04-21-2000 05:24:37  
You really do need the manual for checking and stripping the starter switch as well.Over here in the UK Massey Ferguson still supplied the original manual when I bought mine 3 years ago at a price of �30(about $48). So your local dealer might be worth a try, if not then the Old 20 Parts Co in Derby UK definately sell them and trade overseas.



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