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crzzzz

01-03-2005 13:12:35




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I have a grey fergie which is petrol /tvo powered I have a few questions about it .

serial is ted412333 and the eng no is s241259e

1/ what year is the tractor? is it an origional tvo engine or a conversion?
2/ what is the power output of the engine?
3/ It has an oil pressure guage only, but there is a steel gromet covering a guage hole should there be another guage there for ex temperature, there apears to be no temp sender on the water system tho.
4/ it seems to get a lot of tvo into the sump how can i prevent this from happening am i switching over to early, any ideas???

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crzzzz

01-04-2005 12:27:17




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 Re: Year ? serial no included in reply to crzzzz, 01-03-2005 13:12:35  
thanks for that will get some proper plugs and check points, clean carb out etc. so it wil be spot on.

one other thing, where is the best place to buy parts from ie temp guage in the uk mail order/order online would be great any suggestions

once again thanks for your time!



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James, UK

01-06-2005 09:10:24




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 Re: Year ? serial no included in reply to crzzzz, 01-04-2005 12:27:17  
You could try www.old20.com or www.holland-brand.co.uk, or (depending where in the UK you are) Southern Counties Tractor Spares. In the past I have ordered from an MF dealer in Ireland who was very knowledgeable and most helpful, at www.belltractors.com

Others may have other UK contacts to share. The more the merrier.

HTH



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John (UK)

01-04-2005 10:52:39




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 Re: Year ? serial no included in reply to crzzzz, 01-03-2005 13:12:35  
From the number (TED) it should be a TVO engine but someone could have messed around with the plate. It should have had a temperature gauge as standard from the factory, no TVO tractors were supplied without this. You need to switch over to TVO when the temperature reaches at least 75 deg C. NOT before. You need the correct spark plugs, Champion N21 set to .035" and the points should be set to .015" (plugs are important)The manifold should be the TVO type and it should have the aluminium windshield fitted or it wont get hot enough to vaporise properley. The correct manifold is flat behind the breather pipe the petrol manifold has a hollow with three vertical cast reinforcing pieces and is NOT successful on TVO and you will get oil dilution. The correct grade of oil should be medium 30/40 grade or in hot weather 50 grade. oil change interval is 60 hours, (make sure you do) or you will ruin the bearings.Keep checking the oil for dilution and change it if its necessary even though it may not have done 60hours. The oil filter should be changed every other oil change (120hours)Make sure you have the correct thermostat, it should start to open at 75 deg C and be fuly open at 95 deg C.

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Ali,fae Crieff

01-03-2005 14:13:54




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 Re: Year ? serial no included in reply to crzzzz, 01-03-2005 13:12:35  
Hi, Your serial No. would confirm it as a TVO model of late '54 vintage which is rated at 26HP but you are correct in suggesting it should have a temp. gauge and I can't offer any reasons for it not having one unless it is not the original engine.TVO diluting the oil was a problem,though I don't know If it can be reduced,and as such the recommended oil change period was 60hours whereas the diesel version was every 120hours. Cheers, Ali.

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James, UK

01-04-2005 08:30:20




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 Re: Year ? serial no included in reply to Ali,fae Crieff , 01-03-2005 14:13:54  
TVO dilution can be reduced by not switching over to TVO until the engine is at normal operating temp (hence a temp gauge is kind of handy). I have also found that extended idling on TVO is unhelpful, they are happier being worked hard unless running on petrol.

Switch back to petrol around 3 minutes before switching off the engine to make starting from cold easier.

Some dilution will always occur, but it should not be a big problem unless rings/bores are badly worn.

For the Standard engines you should find a 'connection' in the form of a tapped hole in the thermostat housing, facing the LH side of the tractor as you are sitting in the seat. This should take a reasonably standard fitting ether filled bulb which links to the gauge via a tube - do NOT cut the tube to shorten it, coil any excess neatly.

Replacement cost should be ITR of $30

HTH

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crzzzz

01-03-2005 15:28:38




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 Re: Year ? serial no included in reply to Ali,fae Crieff , 01-03-2005 14:13:54  
thanks, actually i can remember seeing a blanking bolt near the thermostat housing i bet thats where the sender unit for the temp guage goes, any info would be brill, i will fit a guage for peace of mind really



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