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TO30 DISTRIBUTOR

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James E. Inman

10-25-2004 16:41:50




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I'M IN THE FINAL STAGES OF RECONSTRUCTING THE ENGINE ON A TO30 (Z129) AND DECIDED TO REPLACE THE DISTRIBUTOR, IF I COULD FIND ONE. THE ORIGINAL DELCO REMY PART NUMBER IS: 1111740.
I HAD A NEW TISCO DISTRIBUTOR, P/N 182852M91-TP
SHIPPED TO ME AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING INSTALLATION CHECKED AND FOUND THAT THERE IS NO IGNITION ADVANCE MOVEMENT POSSIBLE BETWEEN THE DRIVE GEAR AND THE ROTOR. IT SIMPLY SEEMS FROZEN. THIS SEEMS WRONG BECAUSE TO SET THE DISTRIBUTOR PROPERLY, THE MANUAL SAYS TO SET THE MARK ON THE FLYWHEEL TO 32 DEGREES AND MANUALLY TURN THE ROTOR IN IT'S NORMAL DIRECTION OF ROTATION UNTIL THE BREAKER POINTS BARELY BREAK, THEN TIGHTEN THE DISTRIBUTOR IN THIS LOCATION. THE OLD DISTRIBUTOR ALLOWS THIS.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A MANUFACTURER COULD BE PUTTING A PRODUCT ON THE MARKET THAT IS THIS UNREALISTIC AS TO ALLOW FOR NO AUTOMATIC ADVANCE?
HAS ANYONE OUT THERE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE?
THANKS,
JIM

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Jerry/MT

10-25-2004 21:47:21




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to James E. Inman, 10-25-2004 16:41:50  
What happened to your old distributor? They can be rebuillt For about a $100 New bushing and shaft , etc. I have a '54 TO-30 and I am puzzled by the instructions that you say came from the" manual". I have a factory manual and I have never seen such an instruction when replacing the distributor. Whenyou replace a distributor, you need to get the static timing correct and then check the advance mechanism by running it at rpms significantly above idle. I don't remember being able to manually advance my distributor against the advance springs.

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James E. Inman

10-25-2004 22:29:37




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-25-2004 21:47:21  
Honest Injun, Jerry, the old Delco Remy rotor can be advanced against the advance springs with normal finger/thumb torque.
The procedure referred to is on page 14 of a Shop Manual published by Intertec Publishing.
I don't know anyone that rebuilds distributors but might be able to find a shop that does it.
Thanks for the input.
Jim



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Jerry/MT

10-26-2004 12:11:31




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to James E. Inman, 10-25-2004 22:29:37  
Try www.philbingroup.com or [email protected]. They rebuilt my Delco distributor for $100 plus shipping and that included a new shaft and bushing. As I said previously, I don't have any instructions in my factory manual for installing the distributor the way your post says.

I install and time mine as follows:
Remove the spark pugs and crank the engine over til the #1 piston is on its compression stroke. Look at the timing mark and, using a wrench on the crank nut, rotate til the timing mark lines up at 6 deg BTDC (Before Top Dead Center). Note where the #1 plug wire enters the distributor cap. The rotor should be pointing to that terminal. If it isn't rotate the distributor by hand until it is. You may have to remove it and replace it to get that to occur. After you accomplish this, tighten down the distributor hold down lightly. Take the #1 plug wire, put a paper clip in it and set near a good ground.Turn on the ignition and slowly rotate the distributor by hand til the you hear the "zap" of the spark firing. (You may have to rotate in each direction.) At the point the spark fires, you are staically timed. You may have to do it several times to get it right. When you do, tighten down the distributor, put the plugs back in and attach the high tension wires. Start the tractor and check the timing with a timing light. The timing vs rpm is at follows: 400rpm, 6 deg; 1000 rpm,16 deg; 1500 rpm, 23 deg.At 2000 rpm, your timing should be at 32 degrees BTDC if your advance is working properly. Hope this helps you. By the way, get a factory manual. They have a lot more info in them about how everthing works.

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Ken Mathews

11-18-2004 05:44:05




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-26-2004 12:11:31  
Thanks to your post, very helpful. I have a TO20 with a wobbly dist shaft, I'll try Philbingroup for the rebuild. Do you know if the Timing info you posted for your TO30 will be the same for my TO20 ?



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James E. Inman

10-28-2004 10:27:17




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-26-2004 12:11:31  
Thanks for the timing information Jerry.
It helps.
It seems though that after solving that problem, I've opened up a new can of worms, variety unknown. I just did a new post describing situation to the best of my knowledge.
Thanks again, Jim



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Nickk

10-25-2004 19:21:22




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to James E. Inman, 10-25-2004 16:41:50  
Jim....you can purchase a distributer (Delco/Remy)
with mechanical advancement on the timing from "Roberts Farm Equiptment" 1.800.367.8751
Good Luck

Nick



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James E. Inman

10-25-2004 22:33:40




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to Nickk, 10-25-2004 19:21:22  
Thanks for the quick responce, Nick.

My impression was that Roberts was that they dealt in used tractor parts only.
I'll check with them about this item.
Thanks for the quick responce.
Jim



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txblu

10-28-2004 09:33:10




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to James E. Inman, 10-25-2004 22:33:40  
James, are you a N. Texan? If so, I know you.

Mark



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J. Inman

10-28-2004 10:21:48




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to txblu, 10-28-2004 09:33:10  
Hi Mark.
No, I Live in New Mexico.
Jim



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txblu

10-29-2004 07:11:34




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 Re: TO30 DISTRIBUTOR in reply to J. Inman, 10-28-2004 10:21:48  
Well I don't remember his middle initial, but I used to work with a James Inman in Dallas.

Thanks,

Mark



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