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Where is the TO-20 expert?

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jc(tx)

07-02-1999 13:26:29




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I have a TO-20 (sn36223) which I believe is a 1950 model. It has a Z129 block. Since Ferguson didn't use the Z129 until 1951 I'll assume the motor has been replaced. Should the Z129 use an external oil filter or an internal as on the Z120?? I've used Ford N tractors for the last 15 years the Ferguson is a little different.




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Dennis

07-06-1999 07:18:27




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 Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to jc(tx), 07-02-1999 13:26:29  
As far as I know all z129's were TO30's. Does your hood lift off or hinge to the front ?? A TO30 lifts off and the 20 hinges. My 30 lifts off - pictures in the manuals show the 20 hinges at the base of the radiator. (don't actually have a 20) Also the oil pump is inside the pan on the 30 and the oil filter is outside on the right of the engine below and to the rear of the carb.



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Paul

07-06-1999 12:41:58




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 Re: Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to Dennis, 07-06-1999 07:18:27  
The hood on the TO-30 tilts forward on two pins which bolt to the tractor frame undernearth the sides of the radiator.

Paul



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bruce

07-06-1999 10:13:40




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 Re: Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to Dennis, 07-06-1999 07:18:27  
YES THE HOOD DOES LIFT OFF AND THE OIL FILTR IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE,ALSO THE OIL PUMP IS IN THE PAN.



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Chuck (CA)

07-06-1999 19:42:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to bruce , 07-06-1999 10:13:40  
The hood on my '54 TO-30 (SN# 132456), hinges forward from 2 bolts at the base of the radiator.
I suppose they could have changed the configuration from one year to the next.



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Dennis

07-08-1999 07:01:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to Chuck (CA), 07-06-1999 19:42:26  
My 52 TO30 has a removable hood. My manual shows the to30 with a lift off hood and the to20 with a hinged hood. ????? ????? ????? ????? ?



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jc(tx)

07-06-1999 20:17:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to Chuck (CA), 07-06-1999 19:42:26  
The tractor has a hinged hood. The serial number on the dash shows it to be a TO-20. My question is - where does the oil filter go? The block says Z129 but I realize the TO-20 had a Z120 block. There is a plate covering what appears to be the mounting bracket for the oil filter. It is on the right side of the block to the rear of the carb.



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Chuck (CA)

07-07-1999 04:48:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to jc(tx), 07-06-1999 20:17:54  

JC,
I don't have an answer, only an assumption... Sounds like somebody swapped engines and for some reason, capped off where the filter should be. My '30 has a canister for the oil filter which extends to directly under the carb. Like Bruce, the number on the block says Z1290600. Maybe the following will help.

Good Luck,
Chuck


Make : Harry Ferguson Inc. Model : TE20 - TO20 Category : 2 plow, 24 hp at belt Engine : Continental Z-120 engine 23,9hp - 4 cyl - 81mm x 95mm - Gas (119.7ci) Standard engine 23,9hp - 4 cyl - 80mm x 92mm - Gas/kerosene (TEA20-80) Standard engine 28,2hp - 4 cyl - 85mm x 92mm - Gas/kerosene (TEA20-85) Standard engine 26,0hp - 4 cyl - 80,96mm x 101,6mm - Diesel (209.2ci) Serial number : TE20 (1946) : 1 - 315; (1947) : 316 - 20894; (1948) : 20895 - 77772; (1949) : 77773 - 116461; (1950) : 116462 - 167836; (1951) : 167837 - 241335; (1952) : 241336 - 310779; (1953) : 310780 - 367998; ( 1954) : 367999- 428092; (1955) : 428093 - 488578; (1956) : 488579 - 517651; TO20 (1948) : 1 - 1807; (1949) : 1808 - 14659; (1950) : 14660 - 39162; (1951) : 39163 - 60000 Notes : The TE (Tractor England) was built in England by Standard Motor Co. for export and the TO (Tractor Oversea) was built in USA in Detroit. TE20 with higher serial number than 200,001 = 12 volts. TE20 also known as GREY MENACE.


TE-20 Continental Z-120 petrol 1946-48
TO-20 Continental Z-120 Detroit Built 1948-51
TEA-20 Standard (STD) Petrol 1947-56
TEB-20 Narrow w/Continental 1946-48
TEC-20 Narrow w/Standard 1948-56
TED-20 STD V.O vaporized oil 1949-56
TEE-20 STD V.O Narrow 1946-56
TEF-20 STD Diesel 1951-56 TEH-20 STD Zero octane engine 1950-56 TEJ-20 STD Zero Octane Narrow 1950-65
TEK-20 STD Petrol Vinyard 1952-56
TEL-20 STD V.O. Vinyard 1952-56
TEM-20 STD Zero Octane Vinyard 1952-56
TEP-20 STD Petrol Industrial 1952-56
TER-20 STD V.O. Industrial 1952-56
TES-20 STD Lamp Oil Industrial 1952-56
TET-20 STD Diesel Industrial 1952-56

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bruce

07-05-1999 09:11:00




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 Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to jc(tx), 07-02-1999 13:26:29  
MY SERAIL MUMBER IS TO-37489 AND I DON'T THINK THE MOTOR WAS REPLACED.THE CASTING NUMBER ON THE MOTOR IS Z129A600N.I THINK THEY USED THE 129 BLOCK AND THE 120 HEAD IN LAST YEAR,MY HEAD CASTING NUMBER IS Z120A-601 AND IT HAS A 3-1/4 BORE.



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Tex Ferguson

07-04-1999 05:22:07




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 Re: Where is the TO-20 expert? in reply to jc(tx), 07-02-1999 13:26:29  
The I&T manual shows the Z129 as the TO-30 engine, with external oil filter. Is your TO-20 a hot rod? My TE-20 has had the internal filter removed/replaced with a sheetmetal baffle.



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