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Trivia question...te tractors in U.S.

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Mr Chapp

06-12-2004 07:45:49




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Hi all, If I understand correctly, to was overseas and te was tractor England. How did so many te models end up in the U.S? Dont know why this popped into my feeble little head, but I'm sure there's an answer. Thanks all!!!




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txblu

06-16-2004 09:53:45




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 Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U.S. in reply to Mr Chapp, 06-12-2004 07:45:49  
My TO 20's nameplate with Harry's 37 patents (LOL)listed thereon says "Made in Detroit, Michigan". That said, maybe TE's were manufactured in England.

Mark



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John (UK)

06-12-2004 15:02:22




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 Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U.S. in reply to Mr Chapp, 06-12-2004 07:45:49  
Mike...I am told more than 25,000 TEA's and later TED tractors were sent over, they don't know how it was split between USA and Canada though



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Jim W

06-12-2004 18:43:11




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 Re: Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U.S. in reply to John (UK), 06-12-2004 15:02:22  
I think I heard that there are only 7 TEDs in Canada. But that could have been in North America. Or it could be that there are only 7 left. But whichever, it is very few.
But you see TEAs everywhere you go; I must pass 5 just going to work in the morning. 25,000 sounds low.
Tomorrow I will be talking to a long time dealer so I'll ask him about this, if I remember.
Jim (in Canada)



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John (UK)

06-13-2004 06:07:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U.S. in reply to Jim W, 06-12-2004 18:43:11  
Yes Jim...please do...it would be interesting to find out. That info came from a reputable source but it could be wrong...lets wait and see.



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Jim W

06-13-2004 17:39:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U in reply to John (UK), 06-13-2004 06:07:18  
OK well I did speak to someone about this although not the dealer I mentioned. He pointed out that TEAs were in production before the TO series began and so some TEAs were imported to the US between the TEs and the TOs.
According to The Ferguson Society website there were about thirty thousand TEs and then about thirty thousand TEAs produced before the TOs began, so I guess there is the answer.
Jim

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Jim W

06-12-2004 10:57:48




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 Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U.S. in reply to Mr Chapp, 06-12-2004 07:45:49  
Two things:
a) The US imported TE20s before TO20 manufacturing was set up (couple of years or so) so you will see mostly the earliest TE20s from 46 or 47, and then the TO20s began being sold.
b) It seems like Canada did not get TO20s; we just kept importing from the UK, maybe being part of the Empire and all had something to do with it...and on this board there is quite a bit of TEA discussion (lots of it from me I confess) which applies to the ones in Canada. Having said this, I have seen where there do seem to be a few TEAs in the US, especially the Northeast. It is my speculation that they just "leaked across the border" but I would like to hear if someone knows differently.
Jim

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cdmn

06-12-2004 20:42:49




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 Re: Re: Trivia question...te tractors in U.S. in reply to Jim W, 06-12-2004 10:57:48  
I've seen a couple TEA20s in West Central Minnesota. Don't know where they were originally sold. Interestingly, both had Z120 Continental engines substituted for the English engine. I have one of them and upon taking it apart, it looks like they had to use the Standard flywheel by redrilling the crankshaft bolt holes. They re-used the Lucas distributer and starter motor. They had to space out the front end, because the Continental engine is somewhat shorter.

I'm in the process of replacing the Z120 engine.

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