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TO-20 oil usage

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Clint

05-30-2004 11:06:06




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After mowing three or four times this season I have noticed that my TO-20 is using a considerable amount of oil than in the past, about 1 quart for 2-3 hours of finish mowing (it should be noted that there is a power loss when getting into higher grass or going up inclines). At first I considered doing a ring job, but the more I think about it, how much could be being burnt and how much could be blow by through the vent tube. If the majority of it is blow by than what is the cause and/or fix. Or should I just stick to my original plan of doing the ring job.

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Ray,IN

05-30-2004 20:43:01




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 Re: TO-20 oil usage in reply to Clint, 05-30-2004 11:06:06  
This is an unpopular opinion with some but here it is. The use of multigrade oils usually leads to this condition. First because it is the improper weight oil, this engine calls for heavy duty single weight non-detergent oils,, 20W20 in <45*F weather and 30W30 >50*F.



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txblu

06-02-2004 09:12:59




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 Re: Re: TO-20 oil usage in reply to Ray,IN, 05-30-2004 20:43:01  
Not so unpopular but does need a little tweak.

I hear alot of ranting about the oil in the book. Folks, the book was written for servicing "your new tractor". My old iron is 40 years old. Most of it is not new any more. That calls for modifications.

So, for my worn out engine I just unknowingly purchased, my oil of choice is currently 40w HD. Seems to be working pretty well.

As far a single grade vs multi, the multi keeps you from having to be season sensitive or drain and fill twice in the year when you may only want to do it once. As mentioned in later (earlier) post, single 40 holds hot oil pressure better than 15W-40.

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Phil(va)

05-30-2004 15:08:43




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 Re: TO-20 oil usage in reply to Clint, 05-30-2004 11:06:06  
I think blowby, especially under load, is usually indicative of bad rings. You are losing power because you are losing compression at the same time you are getting the blowby. One qt. every 2 hrs or so is fairly much. If you are the only driver of the tractor, and you can tolerate it, and if you have to farm out the repair (ie. big $$), then I can see you might want to delay fixing it. However, sooner or later....

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James, UK

05-30-2004 11:39:01




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 Re: TO-20 oil usage in reply to Clint, 05-30-2004 11:06:06  
If you have a Continental engine then what I am about to say may not make any sense, but here I go anyway:-

Blow by from the vent tube (which is designed to scavenge any oil vapour from the top end/sump) will not tell you where the problem lies - only that there is a problem.

Blue smoke from the exhaust on acceleration (Do Fergies have such a thing?) will indicate worn rings - blue smoke on revving up after a couple of minutes ticking over will indicate valve stem seals/valve problems.

A quart in 2 hours (a pint an hour) is one heck of an oil leak if you are only finish mowing - and frankly I'd be amazed if my tractor even ran with clean plugs with such a leak - so check your plugs to see if they are oily - perhaps the oil is escaping from somewhere else??

HTH

Just some thoughts off the top of my head

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steveormary

05-30-2004 21:29:37




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 Re: Re: TO-20 oil usage in reply to James, UK, 05-30-2004 11:39:01  
Clint;

We used multi-grade oil in old tractors and newer cars and never had any engine problems. The two engines that were worked the hardest were the 706 german diesel and the z129 continental in the Fergie. And yes, the Fergies have good acceleration.

steve



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