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TO35 Carburetor Rebuild, Good Idea?

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Jim

05-16-2004 15:54:35




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I've been working through some gas engine problems, specifically engine sputtering and engine surging. I cleaned the throttle's links, rods, & springs & put everything back per the shop manual. It seems that took care of the surging. The tractor still sputters when pulling a load though, especially going uphill. Increasing the throttle doesn't seem to help and decreasing the throttle can bring the engine to a halt. I have a Carb rebuild kit and wonder if this is the next logical step? I haven't rebuilt a Carb before and have concerns that I'll simply make things worse. On the other hand, the tractor is isn't operating particularly well so what the heck? I would appreciate any thoughts or ideas regarding a Carb rebuild before I have the whole assembly apart on my dining room table. Thanks in advance.

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Jill

05-23-2004 12:19:47




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 Re: TO35 Carburetor Rebuild, Good Idea? in reply to Jim, 05-16-2004 15:54:35  
I've been having all the same problems as Jim and am wondering what I should do.

My TO-30 runs great on level ground, but when I get on the hills with a load (tall grass and a 4' bushhog), it gets to surging and sputtering. I finally managed to get the field mowed by raising the bushhog up about a foot off the ground, closing the idle air completely and opening the power jet about 5-6 turns. It seems like it isn't getting enough gas under a load, but then when I get it set like that, it runs rough as h---, but at least it doesn't cut off going up the hills.

Last fall it was doing the same thing when I took it on hills, and I thought I might have some junk in the gas tank because when I unscrewed the fuel line where it goes into the carburetor, nothing would come out. I would blow in it, and then the fuel would come spurting out. Last week I took the sediment bowl assembly off, drained the gas tank and had a peek with a flashlight. The gas tank is in pretty good shape: not a lot of rust chunks floating around in there. There was some junk (pine needle) in the cylindrical screen which screws into the gas tank above the sediment bowl assembly, which I cleaned out, and it ran fine for one whole day (whoopee!).

Should I buy a new sediment bowl assembly, should I buy a new carburetor, should I rebuild the current carburetor? It�s a Marvel-Schebler TSX458. How hard is it to re-build? I took audio recording instead of shop in high school.

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Jim

05-23-2004 14:36:54




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 Re: Re: TO35 Carburetor Rebuild, Good Idea? in reply to Jill, 05-23-2004 12:19:47  
Jill,

I went ahead with the rebuild using a kit purchased at Tractor Supply. The kit's diagram was no help so I cross referenced a diagram for the Marvel-Schebler for a John Deere M model. I wasn't able to replace the needle seat assembly, the one in the carburetor being far too snug for my tools. So the rebuild turned out to be a thorough cleaning with the added bonus of a new throttle shaft assembly. The jury is still out regarding the results. I had to stop work before finalizing the adjustments. The good news is I drove the tractor to the shed. Bottom line, what I did was not difficult; however, the fact that I did not replace the needle seat assembly may mean I could have better spent my time doing something else. The effort did not require specialized tools and I spent more time cleaning the carburetor than I did taking it apart and putting it back together. There is something to be said for a cleaning and a look inside the TSX, at least you'll know fouling isn't the problem source.

Jim

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TO35

05-16-2004 20:13:24




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 Re: TO35 Carburetor Rebuild, Good Idea? in reply to Jim, 05-16-2004 15:54:35  
I'd first check all the normal stuff, tune up,timing, air filter, check intake and carb. for vaccum leaks, check the fuel filter and fuel bowl screen(tank screen), then try adjusting the carb. if that does'nt work then rebuild it....The Ms carbs are easy to rebuild just go by the rebuild sheet and you won't go wrong....


best wishes
TO



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